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| ILHI 11:24, 18 January 2008 (EST)
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| Hey guys, do you think we should add a non-playable maps/areas part. A lot of Challenges use areas of places that would be easier describable in a section. So we make up a name for the place, input it into the article with the link to the Non Playable Map page where it says something along the lines of "The area on You Genius, U-Genix where The Freaks are being tested on. (Boxing Clever)
Though there are many and it seems rather pointless seeming most appear in one level.
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| Slagar January 2, 2008(EST)
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| Thanks. I won't get to test it anytime soon though, due to moving. I also may not be on the computer whatsoever. (Not to mention I just got every Command and Conquer game ever made for the PC and am addicted to that when I am on the computer!)
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| Koopa64 14:28, 10 January 2008 (EST)
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| Actually, I did understand that explanation after spending some time testing out the instructions myself.
It simply goes like: Put the first tile you want to merge on the 5th floor, put the second tile on the 4th and put a dummy tile (like 3x1 tile) on the 3rd. Put a story AI on the tile on the 5th floor and select all three tiles. Grab the dummy tile and move it up to the 5th floor, pushing the merging tiles up into the 6th and 7th floors. De-select all three tiles and grab the dummy tile, then move it to the 4th floor. Go into Story Logic and make the Story AI in the 7th floor appear, then move a floor down to the second tile. Select the tile on the 6th floor and select the dummy tile, then grab the dummy tile and push it up one floor. Then go into Story Logic, make the Story AI appear and Drag Select the merged tiles, then move dwn and select the dummy tile, then move the dummy tile onto the 1st floor, just to be safe.
If that's not a simple enough explanation of how to do that glitch, I don't know what is. O_o
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| Slagar January 2, 2008(EST)
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| Happy New Year! I was wondering if anyone understood this part in the mapmaker glitches page. Thanks!
1.1 Select the two tiles you want to merge. Put one of them on the fifth floor, and the other one below it, on the fourth. If they are two stories in height, place the bottom floor of the top one in the fifth. Next, grab the tile that you used to move the two Story AIs up and move it down to the third floor. Mark the three tiles: the two you wish to merge and the third one below them. Grab the one at the bottom and move it into the fifth floor. After you release it, move it back down to the fourth floor. Now, open up your Story AIs. Find the one that is in the sixth floor and select "Show in Map." You will see the bottom of the two tiles that you moved above the fifth floor. Mark it, then move down two floors to find the tile you left there, and mark it as well. Then move it up one floor so that the two tiles are now merged in the seventh floor. Jump to the Story AI in the seventh floor and you will find them. In order to move them back down into the level, highlight them by dragging a selection box, then move down to the fifth floor and mark the tile you have there, grab it, and move it down two stories. You now have two merged tiles in the fifth floor. If you want to move or delete them, you have to highlight them by dragging a selection box. Simply grabbing them or marking them does not work.
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| Drifting 22:45, 27 December 2007 (EST)
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| There are vids at WRVids.com, but they only seem to have videos for TS2. Personally, I think the easiest course would be to round up the various TS FAQs out there, find which one we like best, and ask permission to use it. Chances are, they won't say no. I'm all for the video method though if we can actually find them for most of the challenges.
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| ILHI 13:58, 27 December 2007 (EST)
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| The strategy is the only non factual part of the page then. But the lack of it needs to be alerted as going on the game doesn't mean you can get a strategy, you have to play to find one, and a good one. As for not being bothered. I'd be bothered if I went on it to write a strategy, but that would be using time, and I'd need to have the internet (unless a type it offline) and be using a PS2. Which using both things isn't fair on my other three brothers as we have one cable and two PS2s.
But anyway, there might be videos of records online. I advise someone watching them and typing up their strategy seeming it is the best. Plus it's not in their words, it's just their strategy.
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| Drifting 13:30, 27 December 2007 (EST)
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| I disagree. While strategies may be opinion, the strats that allow for fastest times are generally regarded as being the best ways to beat a challenge. If someone has an alternate strategy, they should feel free to add it. I don't consider it a bad bias to recommend the best strategies for beating a challenge. As a gaming wiki, in fact, we should demand nothing less.
As for strats being unimportant, I'll have to outright disagree there. While level information is nice, chances are when someone is looking at a challenge or story page, they are looking for a strategy, not the level's briefing. All other details, like the briefing, arsenal, and objectives are helpful, but the strategy should be centric to the page.
The only reason most of our pages do not have strategies is because no one seems to want to put in the effort to write them (myself included). SuperNova gave us permission to use anything from his TS2 FAQ, provided we credit him for it. I think that since no one seems to want to write strats, we should start using these, and seek permission to use strats from TS1 and TSFP as well.
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| ILHI 19:41, 26 December 2007 (EST)
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| The strategy is the least important of the page. It is a one way of completing a level and isn't the only way. Like there is only one briefing and there is only one target, the strategy is one persons way of getting the highest medal. It's not information, more opinion.
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| Drifting 19:15, 26 December 2007 (EST)
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| Creating more specific wanted templates is an excellent idea. I'm thinking that a need for strategies could safely fall under "Need Info" but a Need Image template would be helpful. I'll create one soon.
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| ILHI 18:23, 26 December 2007 (EST)
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| Hey, admins, what do you think of adding a Need Strategy template banner. Most of the time I know I can't be bothered, it will alert people more thart they need strategies. It also will make those unfinished pages easier to locate as I don't put NeedInfo tags on pages without strategies.
Also on my wiki I have a need image template, this is also a problem with a whole load of pages, and again, I don' put NeedInfo tags on pages without images.
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| ILHI 06:37, 26 December 2007 (EST)
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| Done all TS1 Challenge pages. Just some strategies to do.
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| Xylaquin 04:36, 24 December 2007 (EST)
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| Fixed.
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| ILHI 19:16, 23 December 2007 (EST)
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| This why -
Edit: Cleared up
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| Drifting 19:13, 23 December 2007 (EST)
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| Maybe.
BTW Xylaquin, the TS1 character pics you uploaded seem to have stopped working for some reason.
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| Xylaquin 19:06, 23 December 2007 (EST)
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| If there was a page for the Engine used in the TS games, then I'd suggest putting it there. But like many console shooters we don't know much about the engines used. Perhaps in the did you know?
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| Drifting 18:55, 23 December 2007 (EST)
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| It's an interesting tidbit, Bob, but I'm not sure if it belongs anywhere. The TS2 one may come in handy for the Glass Smash challenges, but I'm not sure if the TSFP one can fit in anywhere. Windows don't seem important enough to merit their own page. The only advice I have is find somewhere where the information would be useful.
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| ILHI 14:26, 23 December 2007 (EST)
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| I donno. Any other admin?
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| Bobthedevastator 20:42, 22 December 2007 (EST)
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| Hey... I have this tidbit of info and I dunno where to put it. I haven't seen it anywhere until now. The tidbit is, when you're playing TS2, you can break windows by shooting through them, throwing things through them or detonating explosives near them, but in TSFP if you detonate something near a window it doesn't do anything to it. ...Where does that go? I don't even see a section for windows.
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| Timesplittersdude 10:29, 23 December 2007 (GMT)
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| I made a Mapmaker level yesterday. You start in a prison cell with remote mines and strudel. You put the mines on strudel (Like on Cat Bomber) and drive him through a tunnel. You detonate the mines at a switch and the cell door opens. From there on, it's guards, security cameras and a Story AI with a Soviet Rifle on Tough Guy. If you want to know more about my maps, then just ask.
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| ILHI 18:59, 22 December 2007 (EST)
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| Hey, I've created all of the TS1 Challenge pages. I used this site which has fields for Strategy, Briefing and Unlock. Later in I realised most of them didn't have the Strategy or Briefing on them.
I strongly recommend if you remember any information on pages missing information, you add it. Some Challenges I don't even know what they are.
I will be trying to add all missing info before the holidays ends.
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| ILHI 16:20, 22 December 2007 (EST)
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| I did. And Dozer's a cyborg. A cyborg is a lifeform (often human) that is been surgically, robotically modified. Dozer can float, and he has the metal spine running down his back. He is a Human Cyborg.
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| Timesplittersdude 19:39, 22 December 2007 (GMT)
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| By the way, Dozer is not a cyborg! He is a human.
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| Timesplittersdude 19:03, 22 December 2007 (GMT)
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| Thank you very much. Did you look at my user page?
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| ILHI 14:22, 22 December 2007 (EST)
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| When wanting to do something, you can copy the template from the help guide. What it's therefore and want most people do. However I just copy the templates from somewhere else and edit the information. No one memorises the infoboxes so you haven't got much to worry about. As for stickies, there's a sticky help page on here too somewhere. Otherwise, you can ask an admin.
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| Timesplittersdude 18:19, 22 December 2007 (GMT)
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| Hello everyone! I am new to Timesplitters Wiki and I need some help about using chat and stickies. I posted this message by copying the template of the help guide. Please help me! If you want to help, then please post a message telling me how to do the stuff I just said. Thank you. PS Don't forget to check out my user page!
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| ILHI 10:59, 11 December 2007 (EST)
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| Wraith
And DJ, if you can't find anything to do, then do the TS1 Challenge pages.
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| Slagar 12th of December, 2007 (EST)
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| Whoa. That's weird. By the way, is there a page for those little black things that attack you in the Mansion of Madness? You know, the flying ones with red eyes.
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| Drifting 13:17, 7 December 2007 (EST)
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| I just noticed we have 666 articles. Crazy, huh?
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| Drifting 16:44, 6 December 2007 (EST)
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| Dj, I wasn't blaming anything on anyone. The only reason I said anything is because I'd been the only one making edits for 2 days.
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| Xylaquin 11:18, 6 December 2007 (EST)
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| Please remember to use the chat system Djm.
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| Djmaster2
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| I can,t find anything to do either!!!! So don't blame it on me buster!!!!!-Dj master2
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| ILHI 12:12, 5 December 2007 (EST)
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| Only because
- The admins are lazy (as stated in Xylaquin's profile)
- That koopa fellow has gone
- Djmaster isn't adding anything and making more accounts and stuff
- Bots have no chance of spamming, usual spammers are the only thing left
The only thing we can do now really is add TS1 Challenge pages. And me and Xyl' have the game, but again, stated in Xyl's profile, he's lazy when it comes to content. As am I.
Basically, meh.
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| Drifting 19:30, 4 December 2007 (EST)
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| That user has been banned and everything is back the way it was.
Is it just me or does it seem dead around here?
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| Vermilion Maiden 4 December 2007
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| Hi. Someone took everything off the Jo-Barf Creepy page. The page just says something about this being the end of TimeSplitters.
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| Xylaquin 15:29, 29 November 2007 (EST)
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| I've added new stickies for everyone's profiles. The PS3, 360 and Wii are now official stickies which can be used in the standard way.
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