Talk:Rogatio Sandbox

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Revision as of 20:45, 27 February 2007

On light duty today

Just some notes after a reasonable read-through...

• Staff: As long as we're eliminating redundancies, every Magistrate except the Tribune has the right to appoint whatever administrative help he thinks he needs; shall we consolidate that one too?

• Tribune's Senate reports (aka 'weedwhackers'): Where are they!?!

• Senate and Magistrate qual's: I'm going to make the Senate wording a little clearer; I think your note puts it better than the actual clause. For the Magistrates, we're leaving it up to the Comitia? ...the same Comitia that still has yet to give our current office-holders real names? I don't think so. Let's put back the bit about activity/contribution...but we'll only say it once, in accord with our consolidation effort.

• Attaboys: A very important--in fact, the only real--reason for most Sodales to want to have a Senate around would be as a source of recognition for the just-plain-membership. Things like Patrician status, awards in contests (we used to have those), honorifics/agnomina and the like, which a member would have to get from somebody and can't very well confer upon himself. I include freshly-stepped-down Magistrates in this category, and in rare cases even sitting ones. Who's gonna declare Piscinus "Third Founder" for paying our hosting fees last year when the site bit the Big Red One?? He can't do it; we can't either, as most of us chipped in too and so we'd just end up forming a mutual-admiration society. If we had a Senate, composed of other people besides (just) us, it could happen...and nobody would have to schmooze up to a Curator to get a pat on the head.

• List (Album) maintenance: Realistically, this duty would have to be divided up between the Censor and the Aedilis, if not on paper than in practice. I may make this the subject of a separate rogatio or a Senatusconsultum; coordination between these two is critical. The Censor determines who's on a list, obviously; but, just as obviously, the Aedilis is going to have to be the one to put it up on the site and code in new names as the situation requires. We could, of course, classify this as part of the Aedilis' responsibility to "maintain the Web site", and indeed I regard it so. But as the Alba are, properly speaking, part of the Web site, maintenance of them is also an Aedile job, unless we redefine "maintain". So the Censor would approve names for inclusion, or designate names for excision, on these lists...but the actual doing so falls to the Aedilis, just 'cause he's the codemonger, and if he could have gotten anyone else interested in <tr><td><td><td><td><td><tr>, he'd have done it already. >({|;-P

Everything else meets with my strong approval! -- MariPere' 13:54, 27 February 2007 (EST)

Oops, some heavier duty

There, I've made changes in the Sandbox. Most of them are tweaks (spelling, capitalization, rephrasing some things, reordering others), and of course nothing's final; but I have majorly messed with a couple of things, so here they are:

• Tribune's role in the Senate: All Magistrates still have speaking parts; but I thought it a good idea to not have the Tribune propose motions or vote. Rationale: The Trib is there as a neutral observer. In his role as 'people's advocate', he would certainly have something to say, and must be able to say it. But to have him introduce proposals to the Senate, or vote there, introduces an element of bias. I can imagine what his Senate report will sound like if his pet motion gets defeated!

• Other Magistrates in the Senate: I've put question-marks on the right of the ex officio types to vote. Maybe some or all of them will get it; maybe they won't. But what it was looking like before I tweaked it was that four Magistrates were going to swamp an only five-member Senate, possibly overwhelming the latter with their charm, poise, and--oh yeah--auctoritas. I am of no fixed opinion about this; I have merely marked it out on the chart as an area for discussion.

• Censor and Aedilis are now an Album maintenance squadron, the Aedilis in a support capacity.

• I didn't do the Magistrate qualifications yet (assuming we decide to)

• I did add the bits about Magistrates' staffs (Trib can have one too) and about the Senate doing recognition.

So: Seen any good Legionary flyovers lately? >({|:-) <-- that's it; I'm changing my .sig!

Now were getting somewhere!