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-	Do not delete an entire index and replace it with just your story again... --[[User:DirtyMeStoryTime|Dirty Me]] 09:27, 2 May 2014 (UTC)	+	[[User talk:Fredhot16/Archive 1]]
-	I'm sorry. I'm a user as of yesterday and I was just trying to start a story of my own. Could the damage be reversed? --[ [User:Fredhot16]] 07:48, 3 May 2014	+	==Changing other authors' writing==
-	I have already undone it, but did you seriously think selecting every single bit of text on a page, then suddenly seeing nothing BUT your story was the proper way to go? I know people can get intimidated trying new things, but don't just forget all common sense at the same time...	+	I noticed that you seem to do a lot of changing what other authors have written, instead of writing new material yourself. That's kind of disrespectful, in fact I would even call it vandalism, and you've done it to multiple authors. We shouldn't be erasing or changing what other authors write, if you want to contribute then write new chapters of your own, don't go changing the ones that other authors have spent a lot of time and effort writing. Thanks, buddy.
-	And, you should normally respond on the person's user page, not on your user page, or else they probably won't see it. But make sure is it User talk:, not User:. --[[User:DirtyMeStoryTime|Dirty Me]] 05:38, 3 May 2014 (UTC)	+	==Archives==
-	No, I didn't think about that. I'm very sorry for the trouble. --[ [User:Fredhot16:Fredhot16]] 09:38, 3 May 2014	+	I put all your old messages in an archive file to help clean things up. Hope it helps!
		+	--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:33, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
		+	Dungeon and dragons
-	Just to let you know, I alphabetized your stories in the mature section, so if you don't spot them, please note they are in a different location, not removed. --[[User:DirtyMeStoryTime|Dirty Me]] 18:37, 16 May 2014 (UTC)	+	Hello Fredhot16.
		+	I noticed that you was one of last writers in "Dungeon and dragons" and I wonder if I can copy it and publish on chyoa.com? I would add in the description it isn't writed by me, to not plagiation your work. I don't know if you are the right person to ask, but this site looks unclean for me.
-	{{warn1}} --[[User:DirtyMeStoryTime|Dirty Me]] 12:03, 17 May 2014 (UTC)	+	== Help with Mega-story, looking for partnerships/contributions ==
-	What exactly is [[My Little Pony: Choose Your Own Adventure]] supposed to be?  If it's supposed to be a story, it needs choices and it needs a category.  Please don't post incomplete pages.  Incomplete pages will be edited or deleted. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 04:09, 25 January 2015 (UTC)	+	Hey Fredhot16,
-	It will be filled out over time as I come up with more ideas for the story. Unfortunately, I tend to take my time with writing so It'll mostly come out in bits and pieces. --[[User:Fredhot16]] 12:03, 25 January 2015 (UTC)	+	I was wondering if you would be up for helping me out with the [[Tales of Illnora]] mega-story that I started up.
-	Why are those choices in Darkness?  Because the story is open for anyone to edit and some people are desperate to read stories about copping a feel, no matter how story-inappropriate that choice is, and some people freak when they realize they've been reading a story from a female perspective and have to force the story into a male perspective, no matter how inappropriate it is given the story thus far. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 03:05, 9 March 2016 (UTC)	+	FYI: Its intended to be an Adult story with multiple branching off points with the common theme of all focusing on story and character development. At this point however, my ideas and goals for it are somewhat hazy. Having one or more people who are actively contributing to the overarching narrative and premise would be very helpful. --Durzan 21:28, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
-	One thing you may want to consider is that choices don’t necessarily have to seem logical.  Consider that following scenario: Your son hasn’t come home from school and you’re worried about him.  Do you: A) call the police? B) hire a private detective? C) search the neighborhood? D) get a rowboat and sail out to sea?  A, B, & C are obvious choices, but the ridiculously illogical choice D… is what Gepetto chose in the Adventures of Pinocchio.  And somehow that worked out. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 15:30, 10 March 2016 (UTC)	+	Well, this stuff is a bit hard for me to explain, so I'll just describe it as best as I can:
-	You're typing more than you need to...	+	'''Overview:'''
-	<nowiki>[[ Ventrue|Ventrue]]</nowiki> tells the wiki "Instead of displaying the link to the page titled 'Ventrue' as 'Ventrue', instead display it as 'Ventrue'."  Kind of redundant, no?  The | is useful when you want the link to display as something ''different''.  For example <nowiki>[[Ventrue|Aristocrats]]</nowiki> would send people to a page titled 'Ventrue', but the link would display as 'Aristocrats'.	+	'''Genre:''' Fantasy
-	--[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 15:12, 11 March 2016 (UTC)	+
-	You could just place a note on the page such as "clan descriptions are copyright White Wolf Game Studio". --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 16:04, 11 March 2016 (UTC)	+	'''Base Concept:''' Tales of Illnora isn't so much a single story, as it is a collection of stories that take place over a number of different time periods on a single world (hence why I called it Tales of Illnora, and why I called it a mega-story). Basically, the idea is that each story (or group of stories), is its own general narrative and that they are linked by the setting and the specific time period. Each story will have some RPG elements (Classes, choice of race, etc), and will have some degree of sandboxing to it. If the stories are in the same time period, then they could interact and overlap with one another (difficult to setup but possible).
-	Aren't you going to revise the story anymore?	+	There are four time periods that I currently got planned (Only got 1 time-period link established, willing to cut them down or alter them) from which stories can branch out from:
-	[[User : Darky]]	+
-	So, it has been a while since we last talked. I just wanted to stop in and say hi, and let you know I am looking for people to help me expand my story, [[The Exhibitionist]]. Just drop a couple options you would like me to write or something. A couple others have already been sweet and given me some options, but the more, the merrier! But, you don't need to, it is entirely optional (gogogogogogogogogo addadddadddaddadd) '''Thinks to herself, "are my subliminals working?''' Wait, did I say that outloud? So sorry :o Please forgive me. <nowiki>*</nowiki>beg beg beg beg<nowiki>*</nowiki>. Anyways, hope to see you there ^.^ --[[User:DirtyMeStoryTime|Dirty Me]] 10:38, 18 March 2016 (UTC)	+	The First Empire Era (era where Dragons ruled the world and are the only playable race).
-	lol, but it is an adult story. Yes, I know what you mean, I don't bother reading most of the stories. I do write stories other than adults, but I am not that good, to be honest. I draw on my experience to write my stories, and many of my past history consisted of 3 things: Drugs, sex, and physical/emotional pain. I have tried writing about my pain, but honestly, when I read it, it makes me feel like I come across as whiny. I have written sometimes about drugs, but honestly, it is hard to describe what it feels like to be high. So, that leaves me with sex...I would love to write fantasy, sci fi, mystery, crime, etc, but every time I try, at least when I read, it always sounds so cliche. I think maybe the only difference is, I write my erotica based on my real life, so I try to make it realistic. Sometimes I get carried away, but normally I try to make it believable. --[[User:DirtyMeStoryTime|Dirty Me]] 13:33, 18 March 2016 (UTC)	+	The Great Cataclysm (Short period where the world is breaking due to Dragons messing with forces they can't understand).
-	Adding a little more: Yes, I have also written a couple of non-adult stories. You can check my user page for the stories I have written, but you can probably guess after looking at them that I do not do as good... --[[User:DirtyMeStoryTime|Dirty Me]] 13:35, 18 March 2016 (UTC)	+	the Golden Era (Humans rule the world, and dragons are shadows of their former selves).
-	Yes, yes, I talk too much. Even in real life. I have started a story, [[Context]], but unlike [[The Exhibitionist]], it is not a community driven story. For [[The Exhibitionist]]. I will only work on options given to me, and those ideas that spring from them during story mode. I do not create new paths. However, for [[Context]], I am trying something completely different, keyworks located in the story itself. I am still trying to figure out how to work it though. Mostly, I am aiming it at non-adult, but have categorized it as adult because I imagine at some point I will have some level of adult content, but thinking of making it more of a silly, strange, random, train of thought type of story. Anyways, I will STFU now...I know I talk too much, and type too much... I like interaction, not isolation... --[[User:DirtyMeStoryTime|Dirty Me]] 13:45, 18 March 2016 (UTC)	+	the Silver Age (Dragons nearly extinct, but their bloodlines are strong enough that Dragonborn occasionally pop up throughout the lineage of the different humanoid races that are descended from Golden Age).
-	== Your message ==	+	Of the four ages, I currently only have one age officially established (IE with blue links) and I have only started working on one story for it, with that story being [[ToI -- The Dragon Master]].
-	I did not make the page 'Punish her' for the red head in slaves life. If you have a problem, message the people who edited it last.	+	'''Concept of the Dragon Master story:''' In the Dragon Master storyline, Dragons who visit the human realm are hunted down, captured, and enslaved by both licensed humans (''Dragon Catchers''), by government enforcers (Dragon Masters), and by poachers. At the beginning you are given a choice of gender and race, which... depending on your choice will split you onto one of two main story branches.
		+
		+	If you are human, you are given the choice between being hired to work as a ''Dragon Poacher'' (i.e. you become a criminal), or being hired as an aide to a professional ''Dragon Master'' (think of them as being like special agents of the FBI who are tasked with handling all issues dealing with a specific kind of situation; in this case its anything to do with Dragons and Exotic creatures) with the goal of becoming one yourself.
		+
		+	If you become a poacher, you try to capture and sell as many dragons as you can while evading the law for as long as possible.
		+
		+	If you choose the path of becoming a Dragon Master however, you are given various tasks that involve dragons in one form or another, and are tasked with gaining ownership/protective custody of as many dragons as you can in your free time, and then training and/or developing a relationship with them.
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		+	Regardless of which path the player chooses, they may choose to treat their dragon slaves with kindness or with cruelty, but doing so will have consequences. Ultimately the main purpose of this branch is to focus on the relationships between you and your dragons, and explore how it affects you. Possible endings would include: setting your dragons free, keeping them, dying in various mishaps or getting eaten by one, getting arrested, and so forth.
		+
		+	If you are a Dragon, then the storyline is a bit more linear in nature. You go into the human lands hoping to start a new and better life (The Dragon lands are in a state of perpetual famine), get captured by a Dragon Master (and possibly sold to another person), and are tasked with figuring out how to either escape and live in hiding in the Human Lands, befriending the Dragon Master and becoming his familar, or convincing him to let you go.
		+
		+	'''Tone & Mood:''' Varies according to the time period and specific story, but in general, all stories should have parts that are serious and parts that are funny. Some should be more serious and more drama laden than others, but there is a time and a place for each in every story. In the Dragon Master, the tone is supposed to be at parts sober, and at other parts funny... and at other parts disgusting or horrifying (we are dealing with slavery after all).
		+
		+	'''Theme:''' Again, varies depending on the time period and the specific story being told. In the Dragon Master, the themes are about the relationships between humans and dragons.
		+
		+	Well, thats basically the gist of what I can tell you at the moment.
		+
		+	I am hoping to work on the Dragon Master and get the basis for that storyline fleshed out before we start on other time periods and/or stories. Also, keep in mind that this is to be a public story, so each story and option should have a somewhat sandbox nature to it.
		+
		+	If you need any more information about the world or the lore of Illnora, don't hesitate to ask. I already put some basic information in the story, but not all of it is fleshed out yet... at least on CYOS anyway.
		+
		+	--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 06:01, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
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		+	<nowiki>----</nowiki>
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		+	Sure, no problem. Were you thinking of one for the main page, or one for each story?
		+	--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 17:03, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
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		+	Okay, just made the two pages. --[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 18:58, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
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		+	Thanks for the resources, Fredhot!
		+	--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 03:36, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
		+
		+	Well, which branch do you think we should focus on?
		+	--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 03:33, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
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		+	Started a discussion on the dragon masters in [[Talk:Begin your training (TDM/MHW)]].
		+	--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 13:49, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
		+
		+	== Slaves Life ==
		+
		+	Hey Fredhot16, I noticed that you worked on [[Slaves Life]] a couple of times previously. Recently I adopted that story and started a reimagined version of it on CHYOA (renamed to Life of a Slave), which currently gets a lot more viewers than this site and has a few additional flexibilities when it comes to interactive fiction. Especially since this site tends to be a bit unstable.
		+
		+	Anyway, I was wondering if you'd like to collab with me on CHYOA and help out with the story, particularly on adapting Willow's route. If you're interested, hit me up.
		+	--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 15:18, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
		+
		+	Sure, no problem. Here's the link (chyoa.com/story/Life-of-a-Slave.27660). Your gonna have to create an account and send me a message on there (same username over there for me), otherwise I can't add your username to the editor list.
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		+	I can easily relate to the bad work ethic, lol.
		+
		+	P.S. Its called that because I think it sounds a tad better than "Slaves Life" IMHO. If you want an in story reason, well... guess we'll just have to write and find out :D. My initial thought is that the main character is intimately involved with the life of his newly purchased slave, and thus he's witnessing first hand what its like to be a slave, even as he trains, sleeps with, and controls her. I kinda see this story as a bit of a romance. Gives the story added depth behind it, which is always a plus for any kind of story, erotic or otherwise.
		+	--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 00:40, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
		+
		+	Okay, got you added in as an editor. Plus, I sent you a direct message on CHYOA.
		+	--[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 21:36, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
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		+	==Main Page==
		+	I had to put protections against editing on the Main Page due to a persistent vandal.  I may take the protections off again, as things seem to have calmed down. --[[User:Platypus|Platypus]] 14:40, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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		+	== DirtyMeStoryTime ==
		+
		+	lol, yeah, been a while. I don't actually come here. Just, some of the stories around make me feel physically ill. I know, it isn't you, or Platy, or Tee. I ended up moving my writings to discord.
		+
		+	Yes, my bathroom door was fixed. That was the second time. Fortunately, it hasn't broken again. Glass bathroom door, so it shattered into lots of pieces those two times.
		+
		+	As for CYOA style, I think that may be a bit why I disappeared. I think I just write better linearly. As for the choice aspect, I guess it depends on the viewpoint. If you are writing a character viewpoint, then yes, it should be more about their reactions to the events that happen around them. However, there is the other, where the viewer is more of a "god" type of thing, like a civilization game or whatever. Rather than figuring out how the character reacts to stimulus, you instead figure out what happens to the character. I guess it depends on what kind of story you are writing. However, yeah, I think a majority focuses on what the character does and how they react, rather than what happens to the character, which I would completely agree with your viewpoint. --[[User:DirtyMeStoryTime|Dirty Me]] 03:42, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
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		+	Sure. I don't stop in often, but do time to time. --[[User:DirtyMeStoryTime|Dirty Me]] 07:35, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

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Current revision as of 08:14, 14 November 2022

User talk:Fredhot16/Archive 1

Contents 1 Changing other authors' writing 2 Archives 3 Help with Mega-story, looking for partnerships/contributions 4 Slaves Life 5 Main Page 6 DirtyMeStoryTime

Changing other authors' writing

I noticed that you seem to do a lot of changing what other authors have written, instead of writing new material yourself. That's kind of disrespectful, in fact I would even call it vandalism, and you've done it to multiple authors. We shouldn't be erasing or changing what other authors write, if you want to contribute then write new chapters of your own, don't go changing the ones that other authors have spent a lot of time and effort writing. Thanks, buddy.

Archives

I put all your old messages in an archive file to help clean things up. Hope it helps! --Durzan 21:33, 28 February 2019 (UTC) Dungeon and dragons

Hello Fredhot16. I noticed that you was one of last writers in "Dungeon and dragons" and I wonder if I can copy it and publish on chyoa.com? I would add in the description it isn't writed by me, to not plagiation your work. I don't know if you are the right person to ask, but this site looks unclean for me.

Help with Mega-story, looking for partnerships/contributions

Hey Fredhot16,

I was wondering if you would be up for helping me out with the Tales of Illnora mega-story that I started up.

FYI: Its intended to be an Adult story with multiple branching off points with the common theme of all focusing on story and character development. At this point however, my ideas and goals for it are somewhat hazy. Having one or more people who are actively contributing to the overarching narrative and premise would be very helpful. --Durzan 21:28, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Well, this stuff is a bit hard for me to explain, so I'll just describe it as best as I can:

Overview:

Genre: Fantasy

Base Concept: Tales of Illnora isn't so much a single story, as it is a collection of stories that take place over a number of different time periods on a single world (hence why I called it Tales of Illnora, and why I called it a mega-story). Basically, the idea is that each story (or group of stories), is its own general narrative and that they are linked by the setting and the specific time period. Each story will have some RPG elements (Classes, choice of race, etc), and will have some degree of sandboxing to it. If the stories are in the same time period, then they could interact and overlap with one another (difficult to setup but possible).

There are four time periods that I currently got planned (Only got 1 time-period link established, willing to cut them down or alter them) from which stories can branch out from:

The First Empire Era (era where Dragons ruled the world and are the only playable race).

The Great Cataclysm (Short period where the world is breaking due to Dragons messing with forces they can't understand).

the Golden Era (Humans rule the world, and dragons are shadows of their former selves).

the Silver Age (Dragons nearly extinct, but their bloodlines are strong enough that Dragonborn occasionally pop up throughout the lineage of the different humanoid races that are descended from Golden Age).

Of the four ages, I currently only have one age officially established (IE with blue links) and I have only started working on one story for it, with that story being ToI -- The Dragon Master.

Concept of the Dragon Master story: In the Dragon Master storyline, Dragons who visit the human realm are hunted down, captured, and enslaved by both licensed humans (Dragon Catchers), by government enforcers (Dragon Masters), and by poachers. At the beginning you are given a choice of gender and race, which... depending on your choice will split you onto one of two main story branches.

If you are human, you are given the choice between being hired to work as a Dragon Poacher (i.e. you become a criminal), or being hired as an aide to a professional Dragon Master (think of them as being like special agents of the FBI who are tasked with handling all issues dealing with a specific kind of situation; in this case its anything to do with Dragons and Exotic creatures) with the goal of becoming one yourself.

If you become a poacher, you try to capture and sell as many dragons as you can while evading the law for as long as possible.

If you choose the path of becoming a Dragon Master however, you are given various tasks that involve dragons in one form or another, and are tasked with gaining ownership/protective custody of as many dragons as you can in your free time, and then training and/or developing a relationship with them.

Regardless of which path the player chooses, they may choose to treat their dragon slaves with kindness or with cruelty, but doing so will have consequences. Ultimately the main purpose of this branch is to focus on the relationships between you and your dragons, and explore how it affects you. Possible endings would include: setting your dragons free, keeping them, dying in various mishaps or getting eaten by one, getting arrested, and so forth.

If you are a Dragon, then the storyline is a bit more linear in nature. You go into the human lands hoping to start a new and better life (The Dragon lands are in a state of perpetual famine), get captured by a Dragon Master (and possibly sold to another person), and are tasked with figuring out how to either escape and live in hiding in the Human Lands, befriending the Dragon Master and becoming his familar, or convincing him to let you go.

Tone & Mood: Varies according to the time period and specific story, but in general, all stories should have parts that are serious and parts that are funny. Some should be more serious and more drama laden than others, but there is a time and a place for each in every story. In the Dragon Master, the tone is supposed to be at parts sober, and at other parts funny... and at other parts disgusting or horrifying (we are dealing with slavery after all).

Theme: Again, varies depending on the time period and the specific story being told. In the Dragon Master, the themes are about the relationships between humans and dragons.

Well, thats basically the gist of what I can tell you at the moment.

I am hoping to work on the Dragon Master and get the basis for that storyline fleshed out before we start on other time periods and/or stories. Also, keep in mind that this is to be a public story, so each story and option should have a somewhat sandbox nature to it.

If you need any more information about the world or the lore of Illnora, don't hesitate to ask. I already put some basic information in the story, but not all of it is fleshed out yet... at least on CYOS anyway.

--Durzan 06:01, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

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Sure, no problem. Were you thinking of one for the main page, or one for each story? --Durzan 17:03, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Okay, just made the two pages. --Durzan 18:58, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the resources, Fredhot! --Durzan 03:36, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Well, which branch do you think we should focus on? --Durzan 03:33, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Started a discussion on the dragon masters in Talk:Begin your training (TDM/MHW). --Durzan 13:49, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Slaves Life

Hey Fredhot16, I noticed that you worked on Slaves Life a couple of times previously. Recently I adopted that story and started a reimagined version of it on CHYOA (renamed to Life of a Slave), which currently gets a lot more viewers than this site and has a few additional flexibilities when it comes to interactive fiction. Especially since this site tends to be a bit unstable.

Anyway, I was wondering if you'd like to collab with me on CHYOA and help out with the story, particularly on adapting Willow's route. If you're interested, hit me up. --Durzan 15:18, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. Here's the link (chyoa.com/story/Life-of-a-Slave.27660). Your gonna have to create an account and send me a message on there (same username over there for me), otherwise I can't add your username to the editor list.

I can easily relate to the bad work ethic, lol.

P.S. Its called that because I think it sounds a tad better than "Slaves Life" IMHO. If you want an in story reason, well... guess we'll just have to write and find out :D. My initial thought is that the main character is intimately involved with the life of his newly purchased slave, and thus he's witnessing first hand what its like to be a slave, even as he trains, sleeps with, and controls her. I kinda see this story as a bit of a romance. Gives the story added depth behind it, which is always a plus for any kind of story, erotic or otherwise. --Durzan 00:40, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Okay, got you added in as an editor. Plus, I sent you a direct message on CHYOA. --Durzan 21:36, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Main Page

I had to put protections against editing on the Main Page due to a persistent vandal. I may take the protections off again, as things seem to have calmed down. --Platypus 14:40, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

DirtyMeStoryTime

lol, yeah, been a while. I don't actually come here. Just, some of the stories around make me feel physically ill. I know, it isn't you, or Platy, or Tee. I ended up moving my writings to discord.

Yes, my bathroom door was fixed. That was the second time. Fortunately, it hasn't broken again. Glass bathroom door, so it shattered into lots of pieces those two times.

As for CYOA style, I think that may be a bit why I disappeared. I think I just write better linearly. As for the choice aspect, I guess it depends on the viewpoint. If you are writing a character viewpoint, then yes, it should be more about their reactions to the events that happen around them. However, there is the other, where the viewer is more of a "god" type of thing, like a civilization game or whatever. Rather than figuring out how the character reacts to stimulus, you instead figure out what happens to the character. I guess it depends on what kind of story you are writing. However, yeah, I think a majority focuses on what the character does and how they react, rather than what happens to the character, which I would completely agree with your viewpoint. --Dirty Me 03:42, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Sure. I don't stop in often, but do time to time. --Dirty Me 07:35, 24 January 2022 (UTC)