Vaporstory talk:Article Rating Scale

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Sorry, SP, but canon articles have to be decided by users. The whole point of the Vaporstory is to create a world to which anyone can add, and that is manifested nowhere more plainly than in the voting for canonization stage. I've agreed with everything you've added to the site up to this point, but Canon and Good Article should remain separate so that canon can be decided by consensus. If it's decided by administrators alone, the whole project ceases to be the vision of a community and becomes the vision of a couple of admins.

On the other hand, I do agree that only Good articles can apply for canon, similar to what you put under the merge section. And "Corona Article" is a great idea, very original, very Vaporstory. In fact, the only thing I don't agree with is the merge of Canon and Good articles. --Wehpudicabok--talk-- 23:37, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Well, if you look at the bottom the slider thing, i havent really cut them out much, as its a sliding scale, its just what you name it, but i think calling too much by funny names makes for confusing reading.--Silent Penguin 12:08, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

It's not just a matter of names. "Canon" means that it's accepted as truth. Have you ever seen the pilot of The Colbert Report? The guy makes fun of the fact that on Wikipedia, truth is reached by consensus. It sounds like a rough-at-best idea for a factual encyclopedia, but in fiction it makes perfect sense. Your sliding scale idea and my rating scale idea are 99% the same; the only difference is that I am proposing that no one be allowed to move it up to "accurate," or "canon," or whatever we want to call that, on their own. Consensus must be reached, and then – and ONLY then – an admin can promote it. That's the key difference. Other than that, everything you've said is OK by me. --Wehpudicabok--talk-- 22:11, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Well, As for the canon thing, im not american or whatever, so I have only heard of Colbert on IRC and whatnot, but to be honest I would try to avoid things like that, because people start to make connections between that and your wiki, which isnt a good thing. The wiki cannot try to portray itself as something it isn't, it would confuse new people greatly. So id advise against it, maybe some ref. As for the sliding scale thing, as I said, everything vital would be customisable and admins moving it would be policy, at the moment with the current state of affairs, you don't have enough users to implement a voting policty, that can be done later, if it is seen as required, but at the moment an admin would be good enough, as they read many articles, and if another admin found an article too high, they could always bring it down. I think I have identified your problem though Wehpudicabok, its that at the moment, you are thinking too large, I had that problem with ?pedia, but you need to realise that at the moment you don't have enough members to start things such as votes. Those sort of things can be added in when you have around 15 regular users.--Silent Penguin 10:06, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

Oh, no, I understand totally that the whole voting thing would not apply anytime soon. And the Colbert thing was just an analogy, it's not exact. No, for now I think just implementing your idea (assuming that we can get the sliders working and stuff) is fine. --Wehpudicabok--talk-- 19:56, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

Well, someone is coding the slider now, so im gonna set up a test wiki for it. Whether we will be able to persuade editthis to install it for us is another thing entirely, if not we can always try to get hosting elsewhere, like asking wikia or elwiki or somthing, Im hoping to obtain a server for my own purposes, so maybe you could have some of that. Im just speculating here, so lets resolve that issue when we get to it.--Silent Penguin 08:12, 17 June 2007 (EDT)