Nomicapolis:Look and feel

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Current revision as of 01:28, 15 December 2006

This is a meta-discussion on how the non-rule pages of the wiki looks and feels and how it could be improved. This includes suggestions of pages that could be included in the navigation sidepanel, sprucing up the Main Page, and maybe getting a new icon for the game. If you have an idea on how we can improve the look and feel of the wiki and it is not listed below, add it! --Simulacrum 16:26, 29 November 2006 (EST)

Getting Started

I am putting together a sort of tutorial on getting started here at Nomicapolis. It can be found at User:Tucana25/My_other_workspace. It is as of yet incomplete, but I would appreciate any feedback, suggestion, comments, queries, complaints, criticisism, etc. I noticed that we have the bones of a tutorial already in place(main page). Is what I am working on something i could transfer into that (it certainly looks nicer). I don't know if I have clearance to do so, and I will probably need some guidance in getting it to work properly. In regards to a FAQ, I know we have a short foray into that area as well (also main page). Is that something people would like to see incorperated into a tutorial? Regardless of the answer to that, if we are going to have a FAQ, are there more question anyone would like to see added to it? I was thinking if anyone wanted to suggest one, it could be left on my User:Tucana25/My_other_workspace for further implementation at a later date. Thanks for all your help in advance. --Tucana25 15:10, 4 December 2006 (EST)

Logo attempt

I made an attempt at generating a logo, however, looking at it, it might be too big: Check it out! Applejuicefool 12:10, 30 November 2006 (EST)

Have to say I like it. Should make it a rule proposal for the "Offical Seal of Nomicapolis" and give yourself 10 points for the idea. And then if someone comes up with something better they can propose an amendment to change it. Make it a contest of sorts. I know I have no artist talent and no time at the moment. Good job and keep it up. --Dayd 22:54, 2 December 2006 (EST)

I have a semi-decent scroll (vertical, but you can always rotate it) that just needs a calligraphic letter "N" to go on it. I had a decent letter, but as an image, not a font, and once I resized it, it came out fuzzy, and my pathetic attempts to correct it in gimp and krita came to naught. Perhaps someone can continue embellishing it? File:BlankScroll.png chuck 20:22, 14 December 2006 (EST)

Unfortunately, it would appear that image uploads are broken here. Sigh. Anyone up for moving to nomic.info? chuck 20:28, 14 December 2006 (EST)

Navigation Sidepanel

Are there any pages that should be included in the navigation sidepanel? I've already added Game-direction which is a popular page with the wiki. Make your suggestions. --Simulacrum 16:26, 29 November 2006 (EST)

As a new player trying to get a feel for what course has been taken to arrive here, i would have found it useful to have a link to rules that are no longer 'current'. --Tucana25 20:52, 29 November 2006 (EST)

How about a complete list of all rules current and historical? Like the one that i keep on my user subpage: All rules past and present. I need to update though. --Simulacrum 01:08, 1 December 2006 (EST)

That is exactly like what i was thinking...and for my purposes, now that you remind me where i saw it, i will steal it for my own userpage...but i sure could have used it a week ago before i had explored the website. --Tucana25 01:10, 1 December 2006 (EST)

Could we perhaps combine 'Current Events', 'Community Portal', and 'Game Direction' into one Newsletter or something that could have sections that streamline those links that don't get used that often. I understand that we don't want it too big, but the current events and community portal don't seem to take up much space or get updated often. --Tucana25 22:45, 2 December 2006 (EST)

I want to see Decisions_of_the_Judge added to the sidebar. --Dayd 22:47, 2 December 2006 (EST)

That would be nice. In the meantime, you can get there from my user page. Applejuicefool 22:56, 2 December 2006 (EST)

Perhaps we could combine the Decisions of the Judge with the Judge Election on the navigation panel. --Tucana25 22:56, 2 December 2006 (EST)

Main Page

How can we polish the Main Page? Does it look perfect right now? Should we completely tear it down and rebuild it? --Simulacrum 16:26, 29 November 2006 (EST)

Since it is now a rule to declare the beginning of voting, can we put that information on the front page for proposals still under debate. It would be pretty easy for each player to do their own when proposing. --Tucana25 22:43, 30 November 2006 (EST)

Anyone mind if I create "First-Timer" Guide to put on the front page or sidebar? It could contain the link to the proposal template, general suggestions, how a users page can be helpful, where to find discussions and whatnot...etc. --Tucana25 21:22, 1 December 2006 (EST)

I think that is a great idea! --Simulacrum 22:34, 1 December 2006 (EST)

How do i convince a page to have a 'Contents' within it? --Tucana25 23:07, 1 December 2006 (EST)

Um, sorry, I'm trying to figure out what you mean by the question. Could you describe what's happening? --Simulacrum 23:40, 1 December 2006 (EST)

Something like this:Contents

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1 Logo attempt 2 Navigation Sidepanel 3 Main Page 3.1 Annoucements 4 Game-direction 5 Various pages for and about judges 6 Site icon 7 Proposals --Tucana25 07:33, 2 December 2006 (EST)

Ah, You are looking for a Table of Contents (toc), the box between the opening paragraph and the first header. Well, if your page has at least three headings, a table of contents is automatically generated. If you want to force a (toc) use the magicword __FORCETOC__. It must be on its own line and there must be at least one heading on the page for the toc to appear. --Simulacrum 13:28, 2 December 2006 (EST)

Perfect. Thank You --Tucana25 20:17, 2 December 2006 (EST)

And by the way, it took four heading to pop up the TOC for mine... --Tucana25 22:00, 2 December 2006 (EST)

Another formatting question: I am trying to create a link to 'Recent Changes'. How do I do it without using Special:Recentchanges? --Tucana25 22:21, 2 December 2006 (EST)

If you do not like the way that it looks in the link use a pipe (vertical bar |) within the double brackets like so, [[Official Page Name|text you want displayed]]. Example: Game Direction points to Game-direction and not Game Direction. --Simulacrum 02:34, 3 December 2006 (EST)

Thank You --Tucana25 10:39, 3 December 2006 (EST)

Annoucements

The template Announcements is a great way of getting news out there quickly. It does get bogged down with old news though. How about some sort of time-limit on how long an announcement is publicized? --Simulacrum 16:26, 29 November 2006 (EST)

Game-direction

The disccusions on the Game-direction page are in my opinion vital to the future of the game. It allows the players to guage the feeling on possible proposals, as well as, to dicuss the future of the game without the constraints of rulemaking. However, it is a bit clumsy in the presentation of information contained therein. Dayd has cut the page somewhat recently to take out discussions that are no longer relevent to the game. I thank him for it because it was needed. Should we continue to edit out old discussions when the page seems to get a bit bulky? I would prefer that we place the old discussions on a archive page so that newer player might be able to refer to them should they ask about an old idea. What are your thoughts? --Simulacrum 16:26, 29 November 2006 (EST)

How about archiving old discussion on the current events pages, they appear to be unused at this time, and already contain some archives? --TomFoolery 17:14, 29 November 2006 (EST)

I would prefer that the archive be kept locally in relation to the page that is being archived. --Simulacrum 22:32, 1 December 2006 (EST)

Yeah I'd been chopping it 'cause I kept getting a this page excedes 52k or whatever message that and I didn't think some of the information was relavent any more plus a lot of it was mine or at least started by me and I didn't think it useful any more. As for an archive you can go back and look at previous page or versions of a page, or does that reset every once in a while. --Dayd 22:52, 2 December 2006 (EST)

Various pages for and about judges

I would like to thank TomFoolery for the creation of Judge Election, Decisions of the Judge as well as other pages of simular nature. I had meant to do it myself but I got bogged down with other happenings. I think that it would be nice to add an elections link as well as, a (previously removed) courthouse link at the top of the main page. Also, it may be to early to tell but, I would like to see those pages spruced up a bit. --Simulacrum 16:26, 29 November 2006 (EST)

Those pages are mostly place holders at this time, per the rules they are the domain of the player serving as Judge, so I have left them relatively open. --TomFoolery 17:13, 29 November 2006 (EST)

Site icon

The icon for the wiki is just a place-holder until somebody finds or creates a better one that we can use. If you find or make one upload it and suggest it. --Simulacrum 16:26, 29 November 2006 (EST)

Proposals

The Proposals page focuses on instructions on how to make proposals. Should we move the text to a page with a better name (such as Proposal instructions)? We could then make the proposals page just about current proposals with longer summaries than the announcements page. --Simulacrum 16:26, 29 November 2006 (EST)

I agree with that idea, maybe a "newbie" page with all of those relevant instructions, so as to remove them from the main "playing" pages of this exercise. --TomFoolery 17:12, 29 November 2006 (EST)

Maybe move it to "For information on how to write a proposal the right way read the Proposals tutorial". Like the top of the page says. And then the current Proposed by -NAME HERE- and Debate until -TIME AND DATE- and -VOTE NOW- information. --Dayd 22:58, 2 December 2006 (EST)

I support a change of something to that effect. --Tucana25 23:21, 2 December 2006 (EST)

I've made some changes to the effect that I think you suggested. How does it look so far? --Simulacrum 03:51, 3 December 2006 (EST)

I think that is a good change. I am also working on a "Getting Started" tutorial kind of thing, so the 'How to propose' thing can also get put into that. One question about the new 'proposal' page that lists the proposals, I assume each player should be updating that as well. --Tucana25 11:23, 3 December 2006 (EST)