Dataset1/Its a Permutation

From Jsarmi

Session 2 - Team 1

  284   rweis, 20:48 :	so lets get to it	 	 
  285   meets, 20:48 :	okay	 
  286   meets, 20:48 :	so..	 
  287   meets, 20:48 :	without goign backwards right?	 
  288   rweis, 20:49 :	yes	 	 
  289   meets, 20:49 :	okay	 
  290   meets, 20:49 :	thats one	 
  291   meets, 20:50 :	plus the reflection where line AB is the reflectign line
  292   meets, 20:50 :	imma make the line AB a different color	 
  293   rweis, 20:50 :	It is not efficient to just sit there and count	  
  294   meets, 20:50 :	true	 
  295   meets, 20:50 :	well...	 
  296   meets, 20:51 :	we can try to find a patterN?	 
  297   rweis, 20:51 :	so do u have a formula	 	 
  298   rweis, 20:51 :	yes	 	 
  299   meets, 20:51 :	not distances	 
  300   rweis, 20:51 :	ok	 	 
  301   meets, 20:51 :	im not good at this stuff sorry	 
  302   rweis, 20:51 :	Nether am I	 	 
  303   meets, 20:52 :	i have an organized way of counting	 
  304   meets, 20:52 :	but that's not going ot get anywhre FAST	 
  305   rweis, 20:52 :	ok	 	 
  306   meets, 20:52 :	oh wait nevermind	 
  307   meets, 20:52 :	darn it	 
  308   rweis, 20:52 :	ok	 	 
  309   meets, 20:52 :	actually	 
  310   meets, 20:52 :	i do have anorganized way	 
  311   meets, 20:52 :	ignore the top half	 
  312   rweis, 20:53 :	great lets see it!!!	 	 
  313   meets, 20:53 :	cuz we're going to x2 our results on the bottom half	 
  314   rweis, 20:53 :	yes we will	 	 
  315   meets, 20:53 :	k so i drew the first line right?	 
  316   rweis, 20:53 :	right	 	 
  317   meets, 20:53 :	then, we can have 5 more paths of the same pattern 
  318   rweis, 20:53 :	ok	 	 
  319   meets, 20:53 :	etc.	 
  320	 meets, 20:53 :	and then...
  321   meets, 20:54 :	oh	 
  322   rweis, 20:54 :	what	 	 
  323   meets, 20:54 :	i have an algebraic way to od this	 
  324   meets, 20:54 :	i just thought of it right now	 
  325   meets, 20:54 :	each "step"	 
  326   rweis, 20:54 :	YAAAAY algebra	 	 
  327   meets, 20:54 :	has a max of 3 places to travel	 
  328*  meets, 20:54 :	this is like a permutation 
  329   rweis, 20:55 :	Were are just going over this in class	 	 
  330   meets, 20:55 :	lol	  
  331   rweis, 20:55 :	lol	 	 
  332   meets, 20:55 :	lemme delete these lines	 
  333   rweis, 20:55 :	ok	 	 
  334   meets, 20:55 :	okay	 
  335   meets, 20:55 :	so...	 
  336   meets, 20:55 :	lemme use green	 
  337   rweis, 20:56 :	ole	 	 
  338   meets, 20:56 :	there are 3 possibilites for the first step	 
  339   rweis, 20:56 :	yes	 	 
  340   meets, 20:56 :	now...	 
  341   meets, 20:56 :	i dunt really know how to do this	 
  342   meets, 20:56 :	but	 
  343   meets, 20:56 :	we either have 3 ways	 
  344   meets, 20:56 :	over here...	 
  345   meets, 20:57 :	or just 2	 
  346   rweis, 20:57 :	then there are three more ways to do that	 	 
  347   rweis, 20:57 :	no there are just there	 	 
  348   meets, 20:57 :	we can sorta branch it off	 
  349   rweis, 20:57 :	three	 	 
  350   rweis, 20:57 :	yup	 	 
  351   meets, 20:57 :	no	 
  352   meets, 20:57 :	because	 
  353   meets, 20:57 :	if you go UP	 
  354   meets, 20:57 :	then there's only 2 ways	 
  355   meets, 20:57 :	i think we can branch this off	 
  356   meets, 20:58 :	go to the rig ht of the grid	 
  357   meets, 20:58 :	under the questions	 
  358   meets, 20:58 :	we can both branch off together	 
  359   meets, 20:58 :	starting from	 
  360   rweis, 20:58 :	ok	 	 
  361   meets, 20:58 :	3 represents	 
  362   meets, 20:59 :	3 ways for the first move	 
  363   meets, 20:59 :	oh... this is gonna get really messy	 
  364   rweis, 20:59 :	right	 	 
  365   meets, 20:59 :	maybe not actually	 
  366   rweis, 20:59 :	it is it is @: Message 363: To whole message	 	 
  367   meets, 20:59 :	:-/	 
  368   meets, 20:59 :	hmm..	 
  369   meets, 20:59 :	got any other ideas?	 
  370   rweis, 21:00 :	nope	 	 
  371   meets, 21:00 :	im eating dinner soon	 
  372   meets, 21:00 :	when does this end?	 
  373   rweis, 21:00 :	right now
   
 


Session 3 – Team 1

 122   Moderator_A, 20:12 :	Today, we will share some questions and observations from other mathematicians 
                               who have been looking at the questions and solutions you have been inventing and pursuing.  
 123   rweis, 20:12 :	        ok 
 124   Sheenav, 20:34 :	'kay
 125   #1MATHWHIZ, 20:12 :	k
 126   mathman, 20:12 :	k
 127   mathpudding, 20:13 :	k 
 128   Moderator_A, 20:13 :	During the first two sessions of this program the groups have at times explored 
                               a math where points only exist at the intersections of a grid (this one is 12 lines by 12 lines), 
                               evenly spaced one unit apart as in the image on the whiteboard. There are no "diagonal" lines, 
                               at least not in the way we usually think of them. 
 129  Rweisbac, 20:13 :	so 
 130  Moderator_A, 20:13 :	Distance between any two points in this grid world is defined as the length of the shortest path 
                               along the grid lines connecting the points. Several groups showed there may be several shortest paths, 
                               but the distance is well-defined. This is a system of math that you are inventing, 
                               just as the Greeks invented geometry. 
 131  Moderator_A, 20:14 :	Did anyone think of any other questions after the last session?  
 132* rweis, 20:13 :	        ITS A PERMUTATION!!! 
 133  Sheenav, 20:36 :	        it's what?
 134  rweis, 20:14 :	        A permutation I'll explain later 
 135  Sheenav, 20:36 :	        okay
 136  rweis, 20:14 :	        good 
 137  Moderator_A, 20:15 :	Here are some questions that come up when looking at your work. 
                               You don't need to pay any attention to these if you don't want to. 
                               Again, your goal is to identify or invent new math questions that are interesting to you and pursue them.
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