Evette and Schaeffer serial numbers

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Interesting reading [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=54696&t=54525&v=f here] and [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=82636&t=82630 here].
Interesting reading [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=54696&t=54525&v=f here] and [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=82636&t=82630 here].
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| Modele Buffet-Crampon.   
| Modele Buffet-Crampon.   
|Rounded rectangular case, black w/ blue lining, w/ lift clasps, holding barrel separate, L side compartment.
|Rounded rectangular case, black w/ blue lining, w/ lift clasps, holding barrel separate, L side compartment.
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| '''A Series'''
 
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| "early-mid thirties based on its keywork"
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=81970&t=81824]
 
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| ?
 
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| ?
 
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| A1568
 
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| 1930s?
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=56360&t=56254]
 
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| ?
 
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| ?
 
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| '''B Series'''
 
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| "From what I've read (and the dating of older E&S clarinets is difficult) I think the B series is from the 1940's or early 1950's (?)."
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=120546&t=120499]
 
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| --
 
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| B388
 
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| ?
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=222212&t=222212]
 
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| "The Evette-Schaeffer name is inside the upper arc of an engraved oval, with Paris in the center and France on the bottom of the oval. Underneath the oval is Modele Buffet-Crampon."
 
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| ?
 
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| B0770
 
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| ?
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=82636&t=82630]
 
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| ?
 
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| "... colored a rusted brown and has rounded edges with the metal stamp of Buffet on it. It has two locking [button] latches. ... The inside of the case is a burgundy colored velvet with an area at the back of the case that holds extras such as the swab, lyre, etc. (Just one long open area across the back). There is also one small section that measures about 1x2 inches where the reed case goes. "
 
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| B1074
 
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| 1930s-1940s Germany<sup>*</sup>
 
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| [http://www.8notes.com/f/26_147078.asp]
 
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| "the bell of my instrument says, 'Made in France'."
 
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| ?
 
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| B1814
 
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| ?
 
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| [http://www.thinkmusic.co.uk/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=242&strPageHistory=cat]
 
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| ?
 
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| ?
 
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| B1273
 
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| ?
 
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| eBay 9/06
 
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| On bell: "Evette / Schaeffer" [punctuation unclear] / "Paris" / "France" in oval, "Modele Buffet-Crampon" below oval. 
 
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|Rounded rectangular case, brown w/ brown lining, holding barrel separate (maybe room for 2nd barrel or reed case), rear compartment.
 
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| B1497
 
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| 1950s?
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=82636&t=82630]
 
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| ?
 
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| ?
 
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| B2542
 
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| ?
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=79598&t=79575]
 
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| Eveette&Schaeffer, Paris, France. Modele Buffet-Cranpon.
 
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| ?
 
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| B29xx
 
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| ?
 
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| eBay 9/06
 
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| ?
 
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| ?
 
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| B4477
 
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| 1952 (June 1952 per B&H)
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=82636&t=82630]
 
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| ?
 
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| ?
 
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| B5604
 
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| ?
 
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| eBay 9/06
 
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| ?
 
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| ?
 
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| B7129
 
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| ?
 
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| eBay 9/06
 
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| On barrel: "Evette & Schaeffer" / "Paris" / "France" in oval.  "Made in France" above oval. "Modele Buffet-Crampon" below oval. 
 
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|Rectangular case, brown w/ brown lining, w/ lift? clasps, holding barrel separate, room for 2nd barrel or reed case, rear compartment.
 
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| B7382
 
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| ?
 
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| [http://www.netinstruments.com/a.php?a=31070]
 
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| "Modele Buffet Crampon Made in France"
 
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| Velvet lined-orange/brown Leather Case
 
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| B8193
 
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| ?
 
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| [http://www.8notes.com/f/26_147078.asp]
 
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| Modele Buffet-Crampon.
 
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| ?
 
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|-
 
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| '''K series'''
 
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| "The last series was the K-series. It began around 1953 according to the Boosey & Hawkes web site."
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=35304&t=35304]
 
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| "Buffet started making K series around 1930 and continued until they became E-13."
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=91280&t=91070]
 
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| K81
 
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| ~1941<sup>*</sup>
 
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| eBay 9/06
 
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| "The trade mark says below the Evette & Schaeffer  'modele buffet-crampon'".
 
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| Bell end case, black w/ red lining, w/ button slide clasps and center lock, holding barrel on top joint, round cork grease RR, reed case LC.
 
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| K179
 
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| 1930?
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=82636&t=82630]
 
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| ?
 
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| ?
 
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| K4xx
 
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| 1942 "The seller had an apparent sales receipt for the instrument dated 1942."
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=79598&t=79575]
 
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| ?
 
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| [I suspect this is actually K512, see below]
 
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| K512
 
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| 1943 "There was a bill of sale with the instrument dated early 1943 that appeared to belong to the instrument."
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=81970&t=81824]
 
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| ?
 
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| ?
 
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| K569
 
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| ?
 
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| eBay 9/06
 
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| "All 5 pieces are marked with 'Evette & Schaeffer Paris France Modele Buffet-Crampton'."
 
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| Bell end case, black w/ purple lining, w/ spring clasps.
 
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| K23xx
 
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| ?
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=137301&t=137301]
 
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| "Evette & Schaeffer Paris, France Modele Buffet Crampon Made in France"
 
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| ?
 
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| K24xx
 
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| "This was my clarinet that was purchased new for me. I think it was purchased about 1954."
 
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| J. Martin, R. Holmes (eBay 8/06)
 
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| On all parts: "Evette & Schaeffer" / "Paris" / "France" in oval, "Modele Buffet-Crampon" below oval, "Made in France" well below oval.
 
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| Bell end case, black w/ purple lining, w/ spring clasps, holding barrel separate, room for reed case (probably), flat cork grease RR.
 
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| K4000
 
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| 1952 -- according to B&H site in 2002 -- earliest K series serial number available from that site
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=82636&t=82630]
 
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| ?
 
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| ?
 
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| K5077
 
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| 1953 "The Buffet site lists K5077 as built in 1953"
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=54696&t=54525&v=f]
 
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| [Master Model]
 
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| ?
 
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| K55xx
 
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| 1960s
 
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| eBay 9/06
 
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| On bell: "Evette & Schaeffer" / "Paris" / "France" in oval, "Modele Buffet-Crampon" / "Made in France" / "Master-Model" below oval.
 
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| No case.
 
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| K7631
 
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| ?
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=206383&t=206383]
 
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| Evette & Schaeffer, "Master Model" above oval, "Modele Buffet Crampon" below oval.
 
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| ?
 
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| K8222
 
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| "I've seen a questionably source that said s/n K8222 sold new in 1958."
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=35304&t=35304]
 
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| ?
 
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| ?
 
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| K10511
 
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| ?
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=56360&t=56254]
 
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| [Master Model]
 
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| ?
 
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| K10593
 
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| ?
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=56360&t=56254]
 
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| [not Master Model]
 
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| ?
 
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| K124xx
 
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| ?
 
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| eBay 9/06
 
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| Modele Buffet-Crampon.
 
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| Rounded rectangular case, brown w/ brown lining, holding barrel separate (maybe room for 2nd barrel or reed case), rear compartment.
 
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| K135xx
 
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| ?
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=56360&t=56254]
 
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| [not Master Model]
 
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| ?
 
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| K15901
 
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| ?
 
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| eBay 9/06
 
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| On bottom joint: "Master Model" above oval, ? in oval.  "The instrument has the factory markings Buffet Crampone & Co Paris and Evette & Schaeffer along with the words Master Model on both large pieces of the clarinets body."
 
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| ?
 
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| K16121
 
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| 1965
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=55046&t=55021]
 
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| ?
 
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| ?
 
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| K18xxx
 
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| 1968
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=120546&t=120499]
 
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| [Master Model]
 
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| ?
 
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| K187xx
 
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| ?
 
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| eBay 4/06 (L. Peters)
 
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| [not Master Model]
 
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| Black rounded? rectangular.
 
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| K227xx
 
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| ?
 
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| [http://test.woodwind.org/clarinet/BBoard/read.html?f=1&i=56360&t=56254]
 
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| [Master Model]
 
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| ?
 
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| K230xx
 
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| pre 1976 "I have owned this clarinet for over 30 years" (in 2006)
 
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| eBay 9/06 (& seller response to question)
 
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| "Evette & Schaeffer" / "Paris" / "France" in oval, "Modele Buffet Crampon" below oval.
 
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| Rectangular case, black w/ blue lining, w/ spring clasps, holding barrel separate, room for 2nd barrel or reed case, rear compartment.
 
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| K23367
 
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| ?
 
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| [http://www.bandandorch.com/used/used.html]
 
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| ?
 
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| ?
 
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| K31536
 
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| ?
 
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| [http://www.thinkmusic.co.uk/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=242&strPageHistory=cat]
 
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| ?
 
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| Rectangular case, black? w/ red lining, lift clasps, L side compartment.
 
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| K33487
 
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| ~1975
 
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| [http://www.8notes.com/f/26_147078.asp]
 
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| ?
 
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| ?
 
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| K351xx
 
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| 1960s
 
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| eBay 9/06
 
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| On barrel: Lyre above oval, "Buffet" / "Crampon & Cie" / "A Paris" in oval, script "R"? / "Made in France" below oval.  On top joint and bell:  "Evette & Schaeffer" / "Paris" / "France" in oval, "Modele Buffet Crampon" below oval.
 
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| Rectangular case, black w/ blue lining, w/ lift clasps, holding barrel separate, room for 2nd barrel or reed case, rear compartment.
 
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| K444xx
 
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| ?
 
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| eBay 9/06
 
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| Made by Buffet-Crampon.
 
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| K44445
 
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| 1978
 
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| [http://www.netinstruments.com/a.php?a=32787]
 
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| ?
 
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<sup>*</sup> Note that [http://www.woodwind-shop.com/clarinetnumbers.html Buffet serial number list] shows no Buffet production 1940-1944 -- it seems particularly improbable that Buffet would have built clarinets in Germany in the "1930s-1940s".
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Wow! Great thniikng! JK
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Thanks alot - your answer solved all my problems after several days struggilng

Current revision as of 04:51, 29 September 2011

Serial numbers, dates, and identifying characteristics from various sources. Some wildly improbable dates (usually attributable to misunderstanding of Buffet serial number lists) have been omitted. Included dates are not necessarily accurate.

Interesting reading here and here.

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Serial Date Source Markings Case and notes
2027  ? eBay 9/06 On bell and top joint: "Evette & Schaeffer" / "Paris" / "France" in oval. "Modele Buffet-Crampon" below oval. Rectangular case, brown w/ brown lining, w/ lift clasps, holding barrel separate (maybe room for 2nd barrel or reed case), rear compartment.
56xx  ? eBay 9/06 Modele Buffet-Crampon. Rounded rectangular case, black w/ blue lining, w/ lift clasps, holding barrel separate, L side compartment.

Wow! Great thniikng! JK

Thanks alot - your answer solved all my problems after several days struggilng

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