Collisions and Paradox

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[12:01] Marrin: yay for monster madness

[12:01] Marrin: Heya maxwell

[12:01] *** You are now known as Lkeas.

[12:01] Lkeas: greetings, Max

[12:01] *** Maxwell has changed the topic on channel #755 to Light Up.

[12:02] Maxwell: hello there

[12:02] Marrin: o.o

[12:02] Marrin: dont smoke

[12:02] Marrin: <.<

[12:02] Lkeas: Light up, eh? how do you expect us to do that without the index?

[12:02] * dalefanwill turns on the lights.

[12:02] dalefanwill: :D

[12:02] Maxwell: indeed, it is a pun on words

[12:02] Maxwell: I could mean manny things

[12:02] * Lkeas sighs

[12:02] Maxwell: oh geez.. another pun

[12:02] Marrin: Light up..the suns up?

[12:03] Lkeas: is there ever anything that means ONE thing?

[12:03] Lkeas: another pun eh?

[12:03] Maxwell: in the real world or fantasy land?

[12:03] Maxwell: in the real world, no

[12:03] dalefanwill: Fantasyland ftw.

[12:03] Lkeas: i was always partial to Adventureland myself

[12:04] Maxwell: I like Neverland

[12:04] * Lkeas visits Manny

[12:04] Marrin: Third star to your right?

[12:04] Maxwell: Anyways, I am here

[12:04] Sonic|AWAY: Second

[12:04] *** Sonic|AWAY is now known as Sonic12040.

[12:04] Sonic12040: And straight on til morning.

[12:04] Maxwell: and I am not here to play around

[12:05] Sonic12040: Ok. What are you here for?

[12:05] Lkeas: alright, what are you here for?

[12:05] Marrin: well you woulndt answer my questions earlier... <.<

[12:05] Maxwell: it is clear Dan is back

[12:05] Maxwell: and it is clear he knows much more now

[12:06] Lkeas: yes, where has he been all this time?

[12:06] Lkeas: how did he get that information?

[12:06] Maxwell: with N.O.V.A

[12:06] Lkeas: does NOVA know he's spreading that info around?

[12:06] Maxwell: indeed they do...

[12:06] Maxwell: half of it

[12:07] Lkeas: hmm.

[12:07] Marrin: waht do you mean half?

[12:07] Maxwell: half of NOVA

[12:08] Lkeas: you mean Robert

[12:08] Lkeas: ?

[12:08] Maxwell: please, those names are not true names

[12:08] Maxwell: do not use them

[12:08] Lkeas: it is the only name we have

[12:08] Lkeas: unless you'd prefer me to call him Dragon?

[12:09] Maxwell: may I ask something?

[12:09] Lkeas: of course

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[12:09] Maxwell: what do you think of the Network on a good bad standpoint?

[12:09] * Lkeas nods in greeting to the LoreMaster

[12:09] dalefanwill: Hello there LoreMaster.

[12:10] Maxwell: I am just wondering

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[12:10] Marrin: Which part of it

[12:10] Marrin: Greetings, messenger

[12:10] Lkeas: greetings as well, Messenger, welcome back

[12:10] Lkeas: we have missed you

[12:10] Lkeas: good and bad is relative of course

[12:10] * LordBarrius nods in agreement with Lkeas.

[12:10] TheMessenger: Time has not been our friend. It is growing even shorter now.

[12:10] Maxwell: indeed it is, but many of you seem to think of good and evil

[12:10] Lkeas: personally, i am still wary of NOVA since they threatened me, but don't let that influence you :)

[12:11] Lkeas: then again, other supposed members of NOVA have also helped us

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[12:11] Maxwell: yes, but they could have been trying to protect you too..

[12:11] Lkeas: well, shall we ask The Messenger then? why do you think they are corrupt?

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[12:12] Falerin: And why did Galrick oppose them so vehemently and what has happened to him and my servant

[12:12] Lkeas: indeed.

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[12:12] Falerin: Yes pray enlighten us

[12:12] TheMessenger: They are torn in two.

[12:12] TheMessenger: This leads to their corruption.

[12:13] Lkeas: which of the two sides are you working with?

[12:13] Maxwell: Messenger, 755.avi was from you, and as you know I put it on my website

[12:13] Maxwell: I was just wondering what you think it all means

[12:14] Maxwell: I know what I think it means..

[12:15] * Elaith sits, looking on in interest *

[12:16] Maxwell: Messenger?

[12:16] TheMessenger: It means what it seems to mean.

[12:17] TheMessenger: There are those that are very close to the truth but yet have not fully grasped what is right before them

[12:17] Lkeas: we are still trying to make connections..

[12:18] Maxwell: yes, some of them can be quite narrow minded

[12:18] Falerin: That is the danger of literal and linear thinking

[12:18] Maxwell: but there are some that show some promise

[12:19] TheMessenger: Will it be fast enough is the question. Time is in short supply.

[12:19] Marrin: Is the 'daled' room the tail rune, maxwell?

[12:19] Marrin: oh The messenger, i dont know how well you know the runes.

[12:19] Maxwell: I for one think the prophecy will come true, as do many others in this universe

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[12:20] Lkeas: your prophecy of fire, ice, flood, light, and eternal darkness? or something other?

[12:20] Maxwell: I can not tell you of the runes

[12:20] Maxwell: that is up to you to figure out

[12:20] Maxwell: it is a trial you must come to when the time is right, and you must do it alone

[12:21] Lkeas: why? what about unification? what about banding together?

[12:21] Marrin: Well, if there is no way to assure which way the beast totem is to be read..

[12:21] Maxwell: and the prophecy, is not of which you speak Lkeas but something much greater

[12:21] TheMessenger: There are many reasons why providing answers does you no favors. You must be able to think on your feet and on your own if you are to survive at all.

[12:21] Elaith: May we hear the prophecy?

[12:21] Maxwell: No, you may not hear the prophecy

[12:22] Maxwell: I was told never speak it aloud, and I will surely not write it down.

[12:22] Lkeas: told by whom?

[12:23] Maxwell: who knows what spys lurk in the darkness

[12:23] LordBarrius: Hm. Indeed.

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[12:23] Falerin: I might remind everyone that nothing said in here is priviledged and indeed anything said in here is observed by 1000000 eyes. Not that there is a safe place. There is not. So what is said itself must be carefully considered.

[12:24] Lkeas: the spies always seem a step ahead of us. what possible information could they glean from us, if we are so narrow-minded?

[12:24] Maxwell: I was told by the one person I trust more than anyone else, I trust with them my life and I trust their word is the Truth.

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[12:24] Falerin: Considering the fact Diviara read the runes and immediately responded as if he learned some delightful secret he had to take back to The'Galin

[12:24] Falerin: We can assume that too much has been said already

[12:24] Elaith: Are you forbidden from speaking anything about the runes, or are you able to tell us more about Cor-Dem grammar?

[12:24] LordBarrius: How we think, how we act....there is plenty they can learn Lkeas.

[12:25] Maxwell: I do wonder how Diviara could read a Cor-Dem rune.. unless the symbols are not Cor-Dem in original as we think they are.

[12:26] Lkeas: you mean Diviara would not have learned from the faceless which control the Cor-Dem?

[12:26] Elaith: Do the Cor-Dem and the Eban use the same runes?

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[12:27] TheMessenger: NOVA look like you and I and you would never notice them

[12:27] Maxwell: You assume Diviara is in connection to the Network and the Anunnaki I see

[12:27] Lkeas: well, he knew of the faceless, he seemed partially responsible for Myr's attempted transformation

[12:28] Lkeas: or if not responsible, at least aware of the proceedings

[12:28] Maxwell: You might know that even the Anunnaki are not one collection of individuals, but many small groups with very different priorities

[12:28] Falerin: Indeed.... and it appears that they use oridinary humans to do their work too. I for one question is Lisa for instance is NOVA or if she is in fact a fanatic who has been brainwashed.

[12:29] Lkeas: yes... such as the 8 Avatar

[12:29] Lkeas: are there other groups that have broken from Omega's grasp as well?

[12:29] Rimblade: The eight avatars have been brainwashed? Wha?

[12:29] Falerin: As for Diviara he is clearly a leader among the Brilhado. So it is safe to say he has some interaction with the Network. But what The'Galin tells him or not I can hardly say and he is certainly not saying

[12:29] Maxwell: It seems the child is a halfling, Falerin. The mother is of Vespirian after all, and I do think Lisa is a false name, and not human at all.

[12:30] Lkeas: Lisa claims Robert is her brother

[12:30] Falerin: What the Brilhado might know of the Annunaki in depth and certainly of the Cor-Dem writing I do not know....

[12:30] Falerin: Diviara very clearly appeared to know something though.. it could have been a sham I suppose

[12:30] Maxwell: As for The Messenger, his "fling" with her I am glad did not go too badly

[12:31] Falerin: AH....

[12:31] Falerin: Lisa being a "Halfling" would explain somethings actually

[12:31] Lkeas: what about the message about Lies becoming one with the brother? would that be referring to Lisa's brother?

[12:31] Maxwell: Lies is no Vespirian

[12:31] * Elaith whispers something to Lkeas *

[12:31] Lkeas: no, i mean would the faceless inhabit the Vespirian known as Robert?

[12:32] Falerin: Truth is a lie and lies are the truth.

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[12:32] Maxwell: I do not see how that is possible

[12:32] dalefanwill: Don't you mean Lies, Falerin?

[12:32] Falerin: Annunaki do not generally inhabit Vespirian's

[12:32] Falerin: I would never say never

[12:32] Falerin: but... I question it is at all a common thing

[12:33] Lkeas: hmm.

[12:33] Lkeas: well as the 8th avatar host is non-human, one might question what kind of creature it might inhabit

[12:33] Falerin: It is becoming more and more clear to me that there are not only different groups of Annunaki but different types of them as well... Can you comment on this Messenger

[12:34] Falerin: I am aware of a group of individuals which seem to be parasitised by one that revels in LETTING them know it is taking control...

[12:34] Falerin: Which seems a rather unusual behavior for the Annunaki in general

[12:34] TheMessenger: How many different types of human are there?

[12:35] Lkeas: a faceless that lets its hosts stay aware of its control? strange...

[12:35] Maxwell: in short, too many to count

[12:35] TheMessenger: it is the same with the Annunaki

[12:35] Rimblade: D'you mean that there are racial distinctions among aliens too? Darn it >:(

[12:35] TheMessenger: Racial?

[12:36] Maxwell: The Vespirians and Annunaki do share some familiaritiesk, I must admit, as do the Cor-Dem and us

[12:36] TheMessenger: That depends on how you define race.

[12:36] Rimblade: Err, sub-species distinctions.

[12:36] Maxwell: odd, that was very of for spelling

[12:36] Maxwell: but it was spelt correctly when I typed it

[12:36] Lkeas: ah, it all comes down to evolution again

[12:36] Lkeas: common ancestors, perhaps?

[12:36] TheMessenger: There may be fewer races then you think.

[12:36] Maxwell: Familiarities*

[12:36] Maxwell: spell check, damn you

[12:37] TheMessenger: But there are near infinite varieties

[12:37] Elaith: But none of these varieties can create perfect shapeshifts?

[12:37] Maxwell: Only the Anunnaki we know of

[12:37] Maxwell: as of now, no they can not

[12:38] Maxwell: from what we have seen, none of them can, but never say never

[12:38] Falerin: Saying never is tempting fater

[12:38] Falerin: I agree

[12:38] Falerin: Do not

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[12:38] Rimblade: So, we should never assume something is absolute?

[12:39] Maxwell: now that would be silly dont you think?

[12:39] Fulcanx: I hope to god somebody is logging this

[12:39] * Rimblade coughs and heads to get more milk.

[12:39] Falerin: This annunaki parasite I mentioned earlier seems to be able to cause a form of something akin to "infectious lycanthropy" in its victims. Is this likely part of a mechanism similiar to which the Avatar heighten the elemental abilities of a being but twisted in a different direction?

[12:39] Useless: When have I ever failed to record to Memory, Fulcanx?

[12:40] Lkeas: ah, that parasite.

[12:40] TheMessenger: Such is possible. Annuaki when in a host exhibit many different traits.

[12:40] Rimblade: Is that related to the Cold in some way?

[12:40] Fulcanx: Never, Useless, and I thank you for that. *smiles*

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[12:41] * Useless points out that the Archivist has everything well under control in that regard anyway, then goes back to listening intently.

[12:41] Falerin: The Cold is different.

[12:41] Rimblade: Heh. I hope the Outland isn't akin to the D&D outlands. That could get un-spiffy.

[12:41] Falerin: It is a twisting of self against self

[12:41] Lkeas: i still question the ability of a faceless to inhabit an unwilling host, or one which does not match the faceless' own traits

[12:41] Maxwell: I do hope when the time comes for the awakening, the Avatar accept fate and do not stray the path of what is right, and what is easy

[12:41] Falerin: The Brilhado utilize it to maximize the evil that already stains the human soul

[12:41] Fulcanx: Or the WCIII outlands, those are evil.

[12:42] Rimblade: But Lkeas, how many people are 100% unwilling? I haven't met a single person who can claim to be pure.

[12:42] Falerin: I would not doubt that others in the Network have simmilar talents

[12:42] Maxwell: Ahhh, you are wrong there Rimblade

[12:42] Lkeas: if a person has been made aware of such manipulation...

[12:42] Maxwell: for there are those who are pure

[12:42] Maxwell: and Truth found her

[12:43] Lkeas: how is it that she is pure?

[12:43] Rimblade: Innocence is not purity!

[12:43] Falerin: That depends on the semantics one is playing with doesn't it

[12:43] Maxwell: To not know evil or the outside world, is an easy way to be pure of heart

[12:43] Lkeas: so she is isolated, then.

[12:44] Rimblade: But you can't stay pure forever! Nobody can resist the corruption of Experiance!

[12:44] Falerin: Though I might add... that innocence untested is false innocence.

[12:44] Maxwell: human contact is the only thing that corrupts the human mind into chaos.

[12:44] Lkeas: she must remain isolated in order to remain pure, though

[12:44] Maxwell: Indeed, and she has

[12:44] Lkeas: if we are to contact her, will we not corrupt her purity?

[12:44] Maxwell: It will not matter, Truth already has his host

[12:44] Useless: Isolation is not entirely the reason for purity alone, I would think, only one of the greatest assets keeping her pure. Am I right, Maxwell?

[12:45] Elaith: I must depart. Thanks for the illucidation, and when I read the rest later, I am certain the info will be just as helpful.

[12:45] Maxwell: she is pure for many reasons, and isolation is not the only one

[12:45] Falerin: As for an unwilling host.... that is a question in and of itself....

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[12:45] Falerin: Innocence and Corruption might BOTH provide doorways

[12:45] * Useless nods

[12:45] Falerin: The reasons for willingess may vary

[12:45] Rimblade: Actually, I guess I HAVE met pure people then. I know some highly autistic people who have never encountered any perveiws but their own to corrupt them :P

[12:45] Maxwell: I can be sure that she was not willing

[12:45] Lkeas: hmm.

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[12:46] Maxwell: Truth found a host that was pure, in Truth's eyes I might add

[12:46] Lkeas: is she aware of Truth's presence?

[12:46] Maxwell: I do think there is on such thing as perfect, but I do think pure of heart is indeed possible

[12:46] Maxwell: no*

[12:46] Fulcanx: I need a mind eraser for all this...

[12:46] Maxwell: Yes, she is

[12:46] Rimblade: Err... what does Truth see as 'purity'?

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[12:47] * Fulcanx grabs a bottle of sake for "mind erasion"

[12:47] Falerin: Thats an interesting fact....

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[12:47] Maxwell: He needs a host that will not endanger the task at hand, Truth knows he needs a pure of heart host so the same mistake can not happen twice

[12:47] Maxwell: for you see, Truth blames himself for Makkisar

[12:48] Useless: If she is aware of Truth's presence, does she manipulate their relationship at all...if that is indeed the right term for it...?

[12:48] Maxwell: If he can find a host of pure heart, then perhaps she will not become corrupt

[12:48] Maxwell: as did his last host, and his host before that

[12:48] Falerin: Myr too appears to have taken a faceless... and he also appears aware of it... and he seems to actually take pride in the fact. Yet in general the host of an Annuaki do not appear aware at all... What appears to make Myr and this other case both different is that they were taken when they were already adults and independent of their own mind as it were

[12:48] Maxwell: and I only say "his" due to the fact that many of you assume Truth is male, which is in some senses true

[12:49] Falerin: Are we to assume then that the Annuaki in general and ESPECIALLY the avatar normally take a host at birth

[12:49] Falerin: or even before

[12:49] Maxwell: It all depends, many yes

[12:49] Lkeas: hmm. what does that mean then? because apparently The Eternal is also aware of his status as an avatar

[12:49] Falerin: Which of course makes them not detect it

[12:49] Maxwell: to be honest, many think it is carried on after birth much like genetic makeup

[12:49] Falerin: How can you detect what has always been part of you

[12:50] Falerin: It is just you

[12:50] Falerin: what you are

[12:50] Maxwell: so in a sense, your child if you were in fact under Annunaki control would also have one

[12:50] Lkeas: yes, so we've been told

[12:50] Useless: "His" is also technically an appropriate use of the neuter gender-case, but I suppose that is neither here nor there.

[12:50] Falerin: yes

[12:50] Falerin: I hypothesized that much too

[12:50] Lkeas: so there is a chance his daughter would not be aware

[12:50] Maxwell: it would also seem there is far more than 8 Chosen Avatar, in a sense

[12:50] Maxwell: but I will leave you to think that over

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[12:51] Lkeas: that depends on what you mean by "chosen"

[12:51] Maxwell: Falerin, is it possible for an Anunnaki to live within a re-animated body? An undead, or walking dead?

[12:51] Lkeas: it appears the original 8 were each inhabited by a single faceless, but Hope is another matter entirely...

[12:52] Maxwell: if so, that would bring much more theories out there for many

[12:52] Rimblade: Right, sorry. Assuming my last silly question went unposted due to my connection... is a world without The'Galin better than a world with him?

[12:52] Maxwell: no world can be without, Rimblade

[12:53] Lkeas: undeath is an affront to creation, how could a faceless inhabit such a being?

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[12:54] Maxwell: That is what I am wondering myself

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[12:54] Maxwell: I have many reasons to think it is possible

[12:54] Lkeas: hmm.

[12:54] Maxwell: for what I have seen and heard

[12:54] Rimblade: Hey, Fal- is The'Galin's mindset anything like Divera's?

[12:55] Maxwell: did time just stop?

[12:56] Maxwell: nope..

[12:56] Lkeas: if that is true, Maxwell... there is one undead i would favor as an avatar :)

[12:56] Maxwell: is that so?

[12:56] * Rimblade gets another mug of milk. Milk is good.

[12:56] Fulcanx: The Mysterious Necromancer?

[12:56] Maxwell: I do not see how one of bone and magic could hold life

[12:56] Lkeas: well, i don't know too many.. but one in particular in the Histories seems to play a major role

[12:56] Maxwell: perhaps the false undead, or those who do not accept death at all

[12:57] Maxwell: those, who run from it

[12:57] Rimblade: Liches?

[12:57] Fulcanx: Sylith...?

[12:57] Maxwell: I know many run from the grasp of Death, thus causing them to be damned as one of the walking dead forever

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[12:58] Lkeas: hmm. escaping the eternal sleep?

[12:58] Maxwell: If so, the Anunnaki could in fact still live, until one does in fact become one with the reaper

[12:58] Maxwell: I know of one, and maybe one other

[12:58] Maxwell: that have fled from Death

[12:58] Lkeas: ah, now that you mention it, i recall a second as well..

[12:59] Rimblade: I'd have done that by now, but for some odd reason, Death doesn't want to admit me into his kingdom.

[12:59] Lkeas: but is she considered undead?

[12:59] * Fulcanx gasps

[12:59] Fulcanx: Riona!

[12:59] Maxwell: I would assume she is, if she did in fact escape the grasp of Death

[12:59] Rimblade: Heh. Riona the 'Prophet' :P

[12:59] Maxwell: She would not be un-dead but she would not be alive, by many either

[13:00] Lkeas: i see

[13:00] Maxwell: If she was in fact an Avatar

[13:00] Maxwell: then you all know what that means

[13:00] Fulcanx: She can be trusted!

[13:00] Lkeas: do enlighten us dense ones :)

[13:01] Rimblade: I am not that heavy!

[13:01] Maxwell: I suppose none of you can play connect the dots

[13:01] Fulcanx: Nope, I lose count after 0

[13:01] Maxwell: maybe we should talk when you can tell me what color the square block is, or tell me the ABCs

[13:01] FireBreathing: . . . her children are also Avatar

[13:01] * Lkeas sighs

[13:02] Maxwell: ahh, one of you think for yourself

[13:02] Maxwell: bravo

[13:03] Lkeas: that might explain why Anna is one then

[13:03] Maxwell: indeed her child would be an Avatar

[13:03] Rimblade: Hey! I just realized that 2=2!

[13:03] Fulcanx: Wrong 2=4

[13:03] Lkeas: but Danail as well, hmm..

[13:03] Fulcanx: So Messenger, what made you come back?

[13:03] Maxwell: thus creating a paradox, for you see there can only be one chosen Avatar at a time

[13:03] Maxwell: to give birth, is to loose this gift

[13:03] Rimblade: And 2-2=0. And, erm.... whatever.

[13:04] Lkeas: if you have more than one child, which child becomes the avatar?

[13:04] Maxwell: do you understand why that could be a problem?

[13:04] Maxwell: first born

[13:04] Useless: I would think that the primary...what he said

[13:04] Lkeas: hmm.

[13:05] Lkeas: well, if Anna is a descendant of Riona, and she's in the future, and somehow takes a portal to the past where Riona is also present..

[13:05] Falerin: It would have to be a specific form of undeath and there would need to be some source of life still available

[13:05] Rimblade: That is, of course, 'till Makkisar came along and kilt them all but Anna.

[13:05] Falerin: Clearly a skeleton would not suffice

[13:05] Maxwell: do you understan why a very strange Paradox could happen in the world of Lore because of this?

[13:05] FireBreathing: What would happen if the children were twins?

[13:05] Maxwell: did I not say first born?

[13:06] Fulcanx: Even twins, FireBreathing, are not born at the exact same millisecond....

[13:06] Lkeas: how many children did Riona have?

[13:06] Rimblade: Err.... they'd all be the same person?

[13:06] Maxwell: from what I know of, one

[13:06] Fulcanx: Who was Riona's baby's daddy?

[13:06] Maxwell: I do not know

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[13:06] Useless: Would that really matter?

[13:06] Fulcanx: Hmmmm...

[13:06] Lkeas: but then, Riona couldn't be an Avatar since Danail would have inherited it

[13:06] * Fulcanx looks at Marrin

[13:06] Fulcanx: Hmmmm...

[13:07] Falerin: They are if delivered artificialy at times... but thats really irrelevant. We already know that Annunaki can at least in some cases apparently spread out between multiple hosts simultaneously

[13:07] Maxwell: indeed, until you consider she was brought back to life

[13:07] Falerin: It does not appear ideal for most of them.... though at least in one subspecies it appears normal

[13:07] Maxwell: as her past self

[13:08] Lkeas: but you said the faceless inhabits the child at birth, are you saying now that the faceless is not transferred until the parent's death?

[13:08] Maxwell: is she an avatar? No impossible

[13:08] Useless: She may have been her past self physically and mentally, but does that necessarily mean that she *was* again an Avatar?

[13:08] Maxwell: I am saying this could cause a Paradox none the less

[13:08] Fulcanx: more the non?

[13:09] Maxwell: for two Chosen Avatar to be together, the share the same host would create two of the same faceless

[13:09] Maxwell: living at the same momment in time

[13:09] Lkeas: ok so Riona is NOT an avatar? why did we just have a big discussion about undeath then?

[13:10] Maxwell: I was not speaking about her

[13:10] Maxwell: you assume I was, I said two

[13:10] Maxwell: not one

[13:10] Maxwell: she was at one time the chosen Avatar, yes

[13:10] Maxwell: but that was pased on to her son

[13:10] Useless: Because understanding the nature Paradox is important, correct Maxwell?

[13:10] Maxwell: and he remains the chosen Avatar

[13:10] Useless: (*nature of)

[13:10] Maxwell: but, Anna also remains the chosen Avatar

[13:10] Lkeas: alright, so the paradox is if Danail and Anna inhabit the same time?

[13:11] Maxwell: if what we assume will happen comes true

[13:11] Lkeas: which apparently will happen according to the Memories

[13:11] Maxwell: that would create 9 Chosen Avatar, causing a paradox

[13:11] Maxwell: what this means, I can not tell you

[13:12] Maxwell: but nine, two of the same element

[13:12] Maxwell: it is indeed not the way it was planned

[13:12] Lkeas: an imbalance

[13:12] Useless: A potentially dangerous one.

[13:12] Maxwell: from what we know, the imbalance in the chosen Avatar, is only Anna

[13:12] Useless: Before all other aspects of the situation are included, mind.

[13:12] Maxwell: but, reading into history and the future

[13:13] Maxwell: there is room to consider the Paradox to be much greater than we assume

[13:13] Maxwell: if what must come true, comes true that is

[13:13] Lkeas: a colliding of two times?

[13:14] Maxwell: two times?

[13:14] Lkeas: well, if Anna somehow makes it to the past, that is the future colliding

[13:14] Maxwell: no, three times

[13:14] Maxwell: and many other realms also

[13:14] Lkeas: that's... a lot of Avatar.

[13:14] Maxwell: in a sense

[13:14] Fulcanx: Is there any chance of the Devourer destroying the Realm of Twilight?

[13:14] Maxwell: then again, this could be the great plan to begin with

[13:15] Lkeas: whose great plan, though?

[13:15] Maxwell: good question

[13:16] FireBreathing: Is that the prophesy of 755: Riona, Danail, and Anna?

[13:16] Maxwell: the story has been passed on by many races in this universe, all telling the same tale

[13:16] Maxwell: of the great trinity, and what must be done to save all worlds

[13:17] Maxwell: I must leave you now, for speaking much longer would result in death of many, thus another paradox I do not wish to come true, for the death of the Cor-Dem would be painful to me, and many others

[13:17] Maxwell: goodbye for now

[13:17] Lkeas: farewell

[13:17] Fulcanx: Alright, I'm going to go kill a lord of destruction or whatever

[13:17] Maxwell: you do that

[13:17] *** Maxwell has signed off IRC (Vanished: ).

[13:17] Useless: FAre thee well in your life, Maxwell

[13:18] * Useless swishes his tail animatedly.

[13:19] * Lkeas scratches Useless under the chin, her brow furrowed in thought

[13:20] * Lkeas looks over at The Messenger

[13:20] Lkeas: can you tell us anything about Lisa? she seemed to have the most contact with you while you had gone missing

[13:20] Falerin: I have nothing to say about Lisa

[13:21] Lkeas: well, i know your suspicions, Fal

[13:21] * TheMessenger looks at Lkeas and Falerin warily

[13:21] * Useless leans into the scratching, his own mind quite literally awhirr in thought.

[13:21] TheMessenger: Sometimes things are much different then they appear.

[13:21] TheMessenger: Such is the case with Lisa

[13:22] TheMessenger: Othertimes they are exactly as they first appear in spite of evidence later that suggests otherwise. Such is the case with another being involved in this at the moment.

[13:22] *** TheMessenger has signed off IRC (Interred: ).

[13:22] Lkeas: but is she just a mindless NOVA fangirl?

[13:22] * Lkeas sighs

[13:22] Fulcanx: I know I am! *sarcastic*

[13:25] *** Fulcanx is now known as EmptyFulcan|AFK.

[13:25] *** Kellehendros has joined #755.

[13:25] * EmptyFulcan|AFK shatters and falls to the ground, soul-less

[13:25] *** Mode change "+v Kellehendros" for channel #755 by Aria.

[13:26] * Kellehendros bows, "greetings, all."

[13:26] Lkeas: well, LoreMaster, i would bother you some more since you're the only one left, but i have some errands to run XD

[13:26] Useless: Great times are upon us, Archivist, and much intriguing ideas are ciculating about.

[13:26] Useless: Greetings to thee, Kellehendros.

[13:26] Lkeas: indeed

[13:26] Kellehendros: I would be happy to take over bothering the LoreMaster for you, Lkeas, I do it myself sometimes.

[13:26] Lkeas: go for it Kell :D

[13:26] Lkeas: i shall return later

[13:26] Falerin: None bother me

[13:26] * EmptyFulcan|AFK takes the form of a kitty

[13:26] *** You are now known as Lkeas: [AFK].

[13:26] *** EmptyFulcan|AFK is now known as Kitty.

[13:27] *** Kitty is now known as Kitty|Sleepy.

[13:27] Useless: Fare thee well, Archivist

[13:27] * Kitty|Sleepy jumps on Falerin's head to sleep

[13:27] Falerin: Later Prophet

[13:27] * Kellehendros grins, "Prophet..."

[13:28] *** Falerin has signed off IRC (Interred: ).