The Most Important Thing

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[16:59] Ovid: Hello! We're talking about killing Tralin!

[16:59] Ness: XD

[16:59] Ness: Pretty much.

[17:00] Lkeas: um, what?

[17:00] Lkeas: why would you want to kill Tralin?

[17:00] Ness: Because

[17:00] Ness: We can't lose Life.

[17:00] Ovid: Imagine Life being obliterated if The`Galin, son of Galian manifested in Tralin. >_>

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[17:01] Lkeas: Er... wouldn't you lose Life if you killed Tralin?

[17:01] Ness: No

[17:01] Ovid: Life would leave before that happened I'd imagine.

[17:01] Ness: Life would Forsake him.

[17:01] Lkeas: so what would prevent The'Galin from obliterating Life after Tralin died?

[17:01] Maxwell: Nothing

[17:01] Ovid: The idea would be to force a Forsaken transformation.

[17:01] Ovid: Nothing really stops The`Galin from obliterating us all. >_>

[17:01] Maxwell: Once it leaves the body, he woul have a cheap shot.

[17:02] Maxwell: would*

[17:02] Ness: Life would be obliterated because of The'Galin's Manifesting through Tralin

[17:02] Lkeas: Not every avatar that dies becomes a forsaken, do they?

[17:02] Maxwell: Yes

[17:02] Lkeas: But they die eventually.

[17:02] Maxwell: Yes, they die eventually.

[17:02] Ness: Maxwell, IS Tralin The'Galin's planned Host?

[17:02] Maxwell: Forsaken is a stage when the Anunnaki leaves and your not dead yet.

[17:02] Maxwell: It causes your body to shut down and die.

[17:02] Damsel: Actually, I have to say Life is probably safest with Tralin from what I understand.

[17:03] Lkeas: but if you're dead already and THEN the Anunnaki leaves...?

[17:03] Maxwell: Yes, it would leave.

[17:03] Lkeas: but would you raise up from being dead to be a forsaken?

[17:03] Maxwell: It can not stay in a dead body, it would die too.

[17:03] Maxwell: No

[17:03] Lkeas: then killing Tralin is pretty pointless

[17:03] Maxwell: Yes, it would very pointless.

[17:03] Maxwell: be very*

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[17:04] Ness: And our other option? Let Life be destroyed when The'Galin Manifests?

[17:04] Lkeas: The only reason i could see for killing him would be to prevent him from being used as a vessel for Manifestation... but 1) he'd be very hard to kill. and 2) Tralin could very well be our best ally and the most likely to be able to resist manifestation.

[17:05] Damsel: I think we can't totally ignore the fact that Lorithia clamed Tralin as her own communicant either

[17:05] Lkeas: true

[17:05] Ness: Do you have any kind of reference or precedent to even start to THINK that somebody can resist being the Manifestation?

[17:05] Lkeas: Umm... Myr?

[17:05] Ness: ?

[17:06] Damsel: We also know that Lorithia has stepped in once to keep Tralin from being claimed by The'Galin. I doubt she's reverse that suddenly

[17:06] Lkeas: That's true.

[17:06] Ness: Right

[17:06] Ness: But theres been time since then

[17:06] Lkeas: And at any rate, if The'Galin really wanted to obliterate Life, he could do it with or without Tralin's body.

[17:06] Ness: The'Galin is stronger now

[17:07] Maxwell: The'Galin could easily put an Anunnaki out of an Avatar's body if he wanted.

[17:07] Maxwell: pull*

[17:07] Ness: Lkeas, the point isn't necessarily that The'Galin is actively trying to destroy Life, the point is that Life just happens to be inside The'Galin's planned Host

[17:07] Lkeas: Soooo... you care more about the Anunnaki than the king of Deren?

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[17:07] Maxwell: I would..

[17:07] Lkeas: Why's that?

[17:08] Maxwell: The Anunnaki are the most important thing, period.

[17:08] Damsel: I honestly think you're way off base for thinking Tralin as such. Perhaps at one time that was true, but I think Lorithia's intervention have put that line of thinking to rest

[17:08] Maxwell: If you loose one, your pardon my French.

[17:08] Maxwell: Your fucked..

[17:08] Lkeas: Because the tapestry will never be complete?

[17:08] Maxwell: Right

[17:09] Lkeas: What do we need a complete tapestry for?

[17:10] Lkeas: ... XD the Exodus has a puppy.

[17:10] Maxwell: You should know.

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[17:10] Maxwell: Yes, Exodus have a smoke puppy.

[17:10] Maxwell: Alien's best friend :)

[17:10] Lkeas: Hehe

[17:11] Lkeas: Ok, we need all the Anunnaki for something... we know they're aligned with the 8 elements and somehow tied to the Trinity...

[17:14] Lkeas: Am I forgetting something? Do we know WHY the Anunnaki are so important already?

[17:14] Lkeas: Is it somewhere in the pedia and I just can't remember...

[17:14] Damsel: Actually are you certain they're all tied to the Trinity? Last I recall War, Peace, and many of the others were not named in the bond that has formed the Trinity

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[17:15] Lkeas: Well, Max said they're all part of the "tapestry..." I know Truth and Lies are mentioned a lot, but does that mean the others are not so important?

[17:15] Damsel: or maybe they're important to something other than the Trinity. But no less influential

[17:15] Lkeas: hmm.

[17:19] Damsel: "One mark, one guardian, one element, one Avatar, one orb. This is balance."

[17:19] Lkeas: Ooh, nice find.

[17:19] Ness: How poweful IS the Exodus?

[17:20] Damsel: But the balance is mentioned as corrupted.

[17:20] Ness: And given that it serves against it's will, does it use it's full power/

[17:20] Ness: ?*

[17:20] Ovid: I remember that log. ^_^

[17:20] Lkeas: Well, Truth is trying to make himself whole on his own, that's kinda corrupt

[17:21] Damsel: Which is no suprise really. Just one Avatar for each no longer seems true

[17:21] Lkeas: Right..

[17:21] Lkeas: Well, but that's because we have colliding timelines

[17:21] Lkeas: If it weren't for that, it WOULD be just one avatar at a time.

[17:22] Ovid: I would imagine Truth wants characteristics of many Avatar to rub off on him in order to purify himself. Then perhaps he would only need one.

[17:23] Damsel: Whatever the case, the balance seems to be lost

[17:24] Ovid: I wonder how much time it would take to purify Truth. Time always seems to be a factor.

[17:25] Damsel: Well from what I can tell, the first step towards that seems to be saving Daniel

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[17:26] Ness: Whats +N?

[17:26] bule: Nick change i think.

[17:26] Damsel: no nick change

[17:27] Ness: lol

[17:27] Ovid: Courtney, you got me hooked on Kool-Aid Slushies. :P

[17:28] Damsel: ^^

[17:28] Damsel: bwahahaha

[17:28] Ovid: Not like I didn't down Kool-Aid fast enough before, haha

[17:28] Maxwell: Ovid, OOC for slushie talk please :P

[17:28] Ovid: Yesh sir.

[17:28] * Maxwell laughs

[17:29] Lkeas: that's another thing, how does Daniel fit into all this?

[17:29] Ovid: Are you up for saga-related questions? >_>

[17:30] Maxwell: Sure, I suppose.

[17:30] Lkeas: we know Truth talked to Daniel, but what for?

[17:31] Maxwell: Truth spoke with Daniel, I can not say why or when.

[17:31] Maxwell: But it was on Earth.

[17:32] Ovid: Do the Vor-Dem reincarnate as the Cor-Dem do?

[17:32] Maxwell: Only Cor-Dem reincarnate.

[17:32] Ovid: What is Anna's full name?

[17:32] Maxwell: There is always the same number of Cor-Demi alive at a given time unless something really bad happens of course.

[17:33] Lkeas: right.

[17:33] Ovid: *is basically reading from the pedia's unanswered questions section >_>*

[17:33] Maxwell: Anna's full name is Anna _____ __________

[17:33] bule: Whats Hollow and Maxwell's last name?

[17:33] Damsel: Shadowgale's got to be in there somewhere.

[17:33] Ovid: Maxwell is Maxwell's last name. >_>

[17:33] Lkeas: heh.

[17:34] bule: Er...

[17:34] Lkeas: How come only the Cor Dem reincarnate? Does it have to do with their re-creation by Epsilon?

[17:34] bule: I was gonna connect the fact Maxwell is Annas uncle. But i guess i cant.

[17:34] Maxwell: _____ Hollow Stoneforge

[17:34] Maxwell: Atlas Maxwell