Talk:Factors of Offence (Theravada)

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:True, this was the intention. What do you think, do the factors also have to have a specific causal relation in order for there to be an offence? I believe this is part of it, and that this aspect of the specific causal relation is actually very important. Ajahn Brahm (AB) mentions it in his Vinaya Notes. I don't know about Ajahn Thanissaro (AT) though. greetings [[User:Admin|DJti]] 06:41, 21 July 2006 (EDT)
:True, this was the intention. What do you think, do the factors also have to have a specific causal relation in order for there to be an offence? I believe this is part of it, and that this aspect of the specific causal relation is actually very important. Ajahn Brahm (AB) mentions it in his Vinaya Notes. I don't know about Ajahn Thanissaro (AT) though. greetings [[User:Admin|DJti]] 06:41, 21 July 2006 (EDT)
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::I'm afraid I can't think of what you mean by "the factors also have to have a specific causal relation in order for there to be an offence?"  It sounds possible and even probable.  If you have time could you give an example or point me to a place in AB's Vinaya Notes (my copy is just word files of rules, so I would need to know what rule)?  That seems like something that would need a citation in any case.  If you give me some examples from AB I'd be happy to check them in AT.  Why don't you go ahead and put something in and attribute it or note that it needs a citation.  In any case, I think pages like this may need to have text that is along the lines of, "Some modern Vinaya teachers feel that ..." thus preserving the truth. [[User:BKh|BKh]] 08:00, 21 July 2006 (EDT)

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I wasn't sure if this page was intended as as general introduction to the concept of factors, but it seemed to be. Thought that fleshing out some of these pages might help clarify how to move forward. BKh 18:47, 20 July 2006 (EDT)

True, this was the intention. What do you think, do the factors also have to have a specific causal relation in order for there to be an offence? I believe this is part of it, and that this aspect of the specific causal relation is actually very important. Ajahn Brahm (AB) mentions it in his Vinaya Notes. I don't know about Ajahn Thanissaro (AT) though. greetings DJti 06:41, 21 July 2006 (EDT)
I'm afraid I can't think of what you mean by "the factors also have to have a specific causal relation in order for there to be an offence?" It sounds possible and even probable. If you have time could you give an example or point me to a place in AB's Vinaya Notes (my copy is just word files of rules, so I would need to know what rule)? That seems like something that would need a citation in any case. If you give me some examples from AB I'd be happy to check them in AT. Why don't you go ahead and put something in and attribute it or note that it needs a citation. In any case, I think pages like this may need to have text that is along the lines of, "Some modern Vinaya teachers feel that ..." thus preserving the truth. BKh 08:00, 21 July 2006 (EDT)
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