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Web 2.0 debate

Our position is to argue against the statement: "Web 2.0 is all fizz and no substance"

Philip's Notes

• web 2.0 = different mindset, tools are (nearly) the same as Web 1.0
• style vs substance?
• maturity of the tools: browsers + javascript + databases
• maturity of the market: wikipedia, blogs, myspace - people now have the mindset/expectation to write online, not just read

• delicious, flickr - i collect for me, i define on my own terms, i share
• flickr vs ofoto

• the means of production have never been more accessible, and more powerful
• ruby on rails
• adwords
• ebay, trademe, craigslist - global marketplace

working anywhere, anytime

• shescrafty, turntable - working for clients around the world via email, chat, web

Web as platform: The video

• read write platform
• web OS

amazoning the news

• distributed platform
• network effects - better the more people use it

connecting with friends and family making new friends

Brenda's Notes

• the body of web 2.0-ish content is substantive in itself
• numbers of blogs
• wikis
• This guy has an interesting take on twitter - that essentially it helps middle-aged men connect with each other and be part of the world ... odd that! http://www.kn.com.au/networks/2007/05/twittering.html
• http://www.slideshare.net/thomaid/web-20-and-you - backgrounder
• This is pretty substantial - real people getting together courtesy of "web2.0 communications toolkit" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp