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===Philip's Notes===
===Philip's Notes===
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web 2.0 = different mindset, tools are (nearly) the same as Web 1.0
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* web 2.0 = different mindset, tools are (nearly) the same as Web 1.0
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style vs substance?
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* style vs substance?
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maturity of the tools: browsers + javascript + databases
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* maturity of the tools: browsers + javascript + databases
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maturity of the market: wikipedia, blogs, myspace - people now have the mindset/expectation to write online, not just read
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* maturity of the market: wikipedia, blogs, myspace - people now have the mindset/expectation to write online, not just read
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delicious, flickr - i collect for me, i define on my own terms, i share
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* delicious, flickr - i collect for me, i define on my own terms, i share
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flickr vs ofoto
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* flickr vs ofoto
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the means of production have never been more accessible, and more powerful
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* the means of production have never been more accessible, and more powerful
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ruby on rails
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* ruby on rails
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adwords
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* adwords
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ebay, trademe, craigslist - global marketplace
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* ebay, trademe, craigslist - global marketplace
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[http://turntable.com/blog/2007/02/09/web-as-platform-the-video/ Web as platform: The video]
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working anywhere, anytime
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* shescrafty, turntable - working for clients around the world via email, chat, web
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read write platform
 
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web OS
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[http://turntable.com/blog/2007/02/09/web-as-platform-the-video/ Web as platform: The video]
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* read write platform
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* web OS
[http://www.hypergene.net/ideas/amazon_2.html amazoning the news]
[http://www.hypergene.net/ideas/amazon_2.html amazoning the news]
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distributed platform
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* distributed platform
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network effects - better the more people use it
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* network effects - better the more people use it
connecting with friends and family
connecting with friends and family
making new friends
making new friends
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shescrafty, turntable - working for clients around the world via email, chat, web
 
===Brenda's Notes===
===Brenda's Notes===

Revision as of 23:15, 31 May 2007

Wiki for the [Webstock] Web 2.0 debate.

Web 2.0 debate

Our position is to argue against the statement: "Web 2.0 is all fizz and no substance"

Philip's Notes

  • web 2.0 = different mindset, tools are (nearly) the same as Web 1.0
  • style vs substance?
  • maturity of the tools: browsers + javascript + databases
  • maturity of the market: wikipedia, blogs, myspace - people now have the mindset/expectation to write online, not just read
  • delicious, flickr - i collect for me, i define on my own terms, i share
  • flickr vs ofoto


  • the means of production have never been more accessible, and more powerful
  • ruby on rails
  • adwords
  • ebay, trademe, craigslist - global marketplace

working anywhere, anytime

  • shescrafty, turntable - working for clients around the world via email, chat, web


Web as platform: The video

  • read write platform
  • web OS

amazoning the news

  • distributed platform
  • network effects - better the more people use it

connecting with friends and family making new friends

Brenda's Notes

  • the body of web 2.0-ish content is substantive in itself
  • numbers of blogs
  • wikis


  • This guy has an interesting take on twitter - that essentially it helps middle-aged men connect with each other and be part of the world ... odd that!
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