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Does this site still have the issue that the IP address of any user is discoverable by ANY admin? If so, it should be shut down just like the previous (failed) incarnation.

A.Yes we do

B.I'm going to contact the owner of editthis.info to see if he can get it changed.

C.If it can't be changed then we will move all content to another place.

Have a nice week and God bless:)--Sir James Paul 06:54, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

Didn't we go through all this before??? To no avail???

Contents 1 Wikia 2 THIS MUST GO 3 LICENSE 4 Listen

Wikia

James, if you're going to move Wikikids, you should consider making it a Wikia Wiki. RyGuy 07:47, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

First, RyGuy, we need to show them that it will do well. We need to have a fair amount of content and we need to have a fair amount of editors. That is what they look for. Peace:)--Sir James Paul 07:49, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

Okay. That makes perfect sense. RyGuy 07:54, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

Before making it here I considered starting it at wikia but i figured that there was a chance that they would not make it a wikia project so I decided to start it here then move it. Peace.--Sir James Paul 08:31, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

THIS MUST GO

1. This host allows any admin to view IP addresses, which is a major safety and security problem for any website tailored for minors. THE OLD VERSION WAS CLOSED FOR THIS VERY REASON - WHY DOES THIS EXIST AGAIN?
2. There is no indication that the Dutch wikikids creators gave permission to use their logo. Unless such permission is provided, the logo MUST be taken down.

LICENSE

If you're going to cut& paste articles from simple.wikipedia (see red, then you need to make sure THIS site's content is licensed under the GDFL. Is that so?

Listen

I've tried to keep my interfering to a minimum and let you learn from your mistakes, as I know I'm often the bringer of bad news. However, this is now SERIOUS. You have stolen the logo of WikiKids from Kennisnet, which is covered under full copyright. You have stolen content from the Simple English Wikipedia, which is covered under copyright under the terms of the GFDL. This project will never be a Wikia for a number of reasons:

1. The name WikiKids is already taken by two other projects.
2. You steal content. Right now, I can contact the people that made the article red on Wikipedia and get them to send you a warning as the copyright holder of the information. If you continue to breach this, sooner or later someone will issue a DMCA and have this site taken down. You also stole the logo from Kennisnet. As if stealing wasn't bad enough, you stole it from someone that's donated a load of servers in their datacenter to the Wikimedia Foundation. Even if Wikia decided that all this plagiarism was OK, as Wikia is run by much the same people, they'll stay well away from you.
3. You guys have proved again and again that you are fundamentally incapable of running a community site. That's going to sound really mean and horrible, and it'll probably earn me a ban from all of your sites, but I'm afraid it's true. Running community sites is incredibly difficult. In 6 months from now you'll probably have a much better idea of what to do, but right now all you're going to do is make rules and more rules and more rules until everyone's broken at least one, got shouted at and left. Take a break from running wikis and edit them instead so that you can get a better feel of how things really work. Adminiship on all your wikis has been a disaster, and there are so many rules it is completely insane. You might respond now "OK, you're right, we'll change", but I'm not sure you can. You are far too wrapped up in this to be able to run a community site effectively. Wait a few months and pick it up again.

Please, even if you disregard everything I've said and ban me, get rid of the stolen content and sort out your licensing. You obviously do not have a clue about licensing, so get someone in who does. There's stuff like attribution and other very important parts of the license that you're not doing. Archer7 16:06, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

I have made my attempts to remove the logo, I'll fix red. Otherwise, I need adminship to do everything else. ForestH2 20:19, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

Logo changing requires adminship. Again you will not be blocked for saying this. I am aware James in praticular has no clue about copyright and licensing. ForestH2 20:22, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

However, I do, and told him that I was concerned. I was planning to remove the logo soon. RyGuy 15:08, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

You'll also need to sort out GFDL compliance if you're planning to reuse GFDL content. You don't even need to license it under any free license if you don't want: you can retain the copyrights and just not use anything from Wikipedia, although I think that would make things incredibly difficult, and some editors might not like it either. Archer7 20:29, 6 June 2007 (EDT)