User talk:Fredhot16
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Mr fredhot16. I aint got time so pls send me your age. Im making a poll for ages PLs send me ur age ASAP.Michaeltamayo96
I'm sorry. I'm a user as of yesterday and I was just trying to start a story of my own. Could the damage be reversed? --[ [User:Fredhot16]] 07:48, 3 May 2014
I have already undone it, but did you seriously think selecting every single bit of text on a page, then suddenly seeing nothing BUT your story was the proper way to go? I know people can get intimidated trying new things, but don't just forget all common sense at the same time...
No, I didn't think about that. I'm very sorry for the trouble. --[ [User:Fredhot16:Fredhot16]] 09:38, 3 May 2014
What exactly is My Little Pony: Choose Your Own Adventure supposed to be? If it's supposed to be a story, it needs choices and it needs a category. Please don't post incomplete pages. Incomplete pages will be edited or deleted. --Platypus 04:09, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Why are those choices in Darkness? Because the story is open for anyone to edit and some people are desperate to read stories about copping a feel, no matter how story-inappropriate that choice is, and some people freak when they realize they've been reading a story from a female perspective and have to force the story into a male perspective, no matter how inappropriate it is given the story thus far. --Platypus 03:05, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
One thing you may want to consider is that choices don’t necessarily have to seem logical. Consider that following scenario: Your son hasn’t come home from school and you’re worried about him. Do you: A) call the police? B) hire a private detective? C) search the neighborhood? D) get a rowboat and sail out to sea? A, B, & C are obvious choices, but the ridiculously illogical choice D… is what Gepetto chose in the Adventures of Pinocchio. And somehow that worked out. --Platypus 15:30, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
You're typing more than you need to...
[[ Ventrue|Ventrue]] tells the wiki "Instead of displaying the link to the page titled 'Ventrue' as 'Ventrue', instead display it as 'Ventrue'." Kind of redundant, no? The | is useful when you want the link to display as something different. For example [[Ventrue|Aristocrats]] would send people to a page titled 'Ventrue', but the link would display as 'Aristocrats'. --Platypus 15:12, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
You could just place a note on the page such as "clan descriptions are copyright White Wolf Game Studio". --Platypus 16:04, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
Aren't you going to revise the story anymore? User : Darky
If you want to contribute to Darkness by adding more pages, fine. If you want to rip out pages because you don't like certain choices, NOT FINE. Leave those pages alone. I wrote them and they are staying. PERIOD. --Platypus 18:42, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
I know you know how to categorize your pages. Categorize them!--Platypus 13:35, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Categorizing is not something to be saved for 'later'. Either the page is categorized when it's posted or the page gets deleted. It's that simple.
If you've read a significant amount of Darkness, and it seems that you have, then you should have some understanding of what kind of story it is. If you don't understand it, I don't think that I can explain it any further. --Platypus 18:27, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
A discussion page exists for discussing the associated story page, so if you want to discuss the tropes that you feel are associated with that story page, it's appropriate to do so. Been spending a bit of time over at tvtropes? --Platypus 14:13, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
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I did not make the page 'Punish her' for the red head in slaves life. If you have a problem, message the people who edited it last. From PanzerLord1943
DirtyMeStoryTime's talk
Do not delete an entire index and replace it with just your story again... --Dirty Me 09:27, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
And, you should normally respond on the person's user page, not on your user page, or else they probably won't see it. But make sure is it User talk:, not User:. --Dirty Me 05:38, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Just to let you know, I alphabetized your stories in the mature section, so if you don't spot them, please note they are in a different location, not removed. --Dirty Me 18:37, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Please make sure to include the title of the story as a category on each page you post. If you don't know how to add categories, please review the Tutorial, especially Basic page format. --Dirty Me 12:03, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
So, it has been a while since we last talked. I just wanted to stop in and say hi, and let you know I am looking for people to help me expand my story, The Exhibitionist. Just drop a couple options you would like me to write or something. A couple others have already been sweet and given me some options, but the more, the merrier! But, you don't need to, it is entirely optional (gogogogogogogogogo addadddadddaddadd) Thinks to herself, "are my subliminals working? Wait, did I say that outloud? So sorry :o Please forgive me. *beg beg beg beg*. Anyways, hope to see you there ^.^ --Dirty Me 10:38, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
lol, but it is an adult story. Yes, I know what you mean, I don't bother reading most of the stories. I do write stories other than adults, but I am not that good, to be honest. I draw on my experience to write my stories, and many of my past history consisted of 3 things: Drugs, sex, and physical/emotional pain. I have tried writing about my pain, but honestly, when I read it, it makes me feel like I come across as whiny. I have written sometimes about drugs, but honestly, it is hard to describe what it feels like to be high. So, that leaves me with sex...I would love to write fantasy, sci fi, mystery, crime, etc, but every time I try, at least when I read, it always sounds so cliche. I think maybe the only difference is, I write my erotica based on my real life, so I try to make it realistic. Sometimes I get carried away, but normally I try to make it believable. --Dirty Me 13:33, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Adding a little more: Yes, I have also written a couple of non-adult stories. You can check my user page for the stories I have written, but you can probably guess after looking at them that I do not do as good... --Dirty Me 13:35, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Yes, yes, I talk too much. Even in real life. I have started a story, Context, but unlike The Exhibitionist, it is not a community driven story. For The Exhibitionist. I will only work on options given to me, and those ideas that spring from them during story mode. I do not create new paths. However, for Context, I am trying something completely different, keyworks located in the story itself. I am still trying to figure out how to work it though. Mostly, I am aiming it at non-adult, but have categorized it as adult because I imagine at some point I will have some level of adult content, but thinking of making it more of a silly, strange, random, train of thought type of story. Anyways, I will STFU now...I know I talk too much, and type too much... I like interaction, not isolation... --Dirty Me 13:45, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
Hello, so, you want stories that are adult but not really sex stories like 99%? Want to try my Short Bursts story? Let me know what you think? Yes, I will have graphic sex in there, and graphic other things. lol, you will probably be able to tell once you read the first two I have completed. Anyways, just want to know what you think, since it seems like you are not one who is here only for the graphic sex stories, but for actual stories. Anyways, I would like it if you let me know what you think about them. Yes, I am a needy, insecure person, so like to hear if my stuff is good. --Dirty Me 08:37, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Hmm, where to start. I notice some of the things you have posted on Darky's talk page. Not saying I don't understand, or sympathize, but, are you sure this is really the correct way to go about it? I guess, he started the story, and while it seems that he should be able to do more than make it one of another, lots, of adult stories, are you sure criticizing him is really the way to go? It seems your view and his view are clashing, and I am not sure it is really that helpful at this point. Possibly you could make your own story that follows a vision you have? Not trying to get in the middle of it, but it just seems like many posts on his page are "Man, why would you even go there". I have the feeling he has changed the path, like the feather tickling, mostly because of your feedback, but... I guess, like me, I try to make non-adult stories. I try to make something that is not in the realm of "naughty", but I find most of the time when I try, I run out of story too quickly. I guess I am just better at erotica than I am at conventional stories. So, I sympathize with Darky too. But honestly, when the thing I see on the first page is "stunning girl with a nice butt and b-cup breasts", well, I think that was always his direction. I mean, what does her butt and breasts have to do with being a barbarian? She has a butt, she has breasts, but when there is a need to highlight them, I guess there was already a set direction in the author's eyes. Is it really that constructive to keep bugging him about "Man, why go there"? The only way it could have screamed more adult is if there was also the guy's penis size. I guess I am saying it seems like you would have a better story by writing your own. Maybe "Sherry becomes a barbarian girl", and run with it. Sorry, I know you are free to keep messaging him, but it just seems like it is only nagging about another author not meeting your expectations at this point. Just my opinion though. --Dirty Me 01:34, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Sigh, and yet another story with "DD cup breasts, and a round and firm ass"... I swear, as I said above, I sympathize with you...every time I see something like this it makes me want to scream... Why do all women need to be unrealistically proportioned in like 90% of all the stories here, and why do they all need to have DD breasts unless someone is trying to create some under age style story? Seriously...it is frustrating... --Dirty Me 02:51, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
lol, so cabin in the woods xD
Loved that movie --Dirty Me 14:31, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
No worries, I have not ignored your messages. Just, I suffer writers block frequently. Guess I get busy with other things and cannot really focus on writing. So, not ignoring, just not contributing anything right now because I am not sure what to contribute. That has always been one of my problems with writing, I start off okay, then end up losing my path completely for a while. --Dirty Me 01:26, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
Honestly, blank or pre made are fine, depending on how it is done. I normally try to fill in details like with dreams, memories, etc. Dirty Me originally started mostly from my blog material, with some side options to make it a CYoS. Sometimes, I did better, when I used my own experience to write, other times, I did worse, especially when I was just trying to make an option to have an option, and when I was not really in a writing mood. "Okay, lets just put in some sex stuff for the readers to make them happy, and go work on something else". Those are probably the worst paths. Too Graphic is a WIP, majorly. I need to actually put story in. Doing it more because on my blog people told me they liked pictures. So, figured, let me figure out my path, and put some pictures in, then tell a story based on those. But, it is very sexual. Again, the issue I have with being able to write based on my own experiences, without sounding like a whiny bitch. If you want to get what I mean by that, try reading this path on Dirty Me: Dirty Me/Go ahead and accept the party invitation -> Dirty Me/Sure, one beer can't hurt -> Dirty Me/Go home and try to forget this -> Dirty Me/Pretend like you have no idea what happened and that you would love to party with him. I wanted to put how I felt, but, not sure how most of the readers here will react. I assume though I am right: whiny bitch. Especially when you think about what you said some people post on here. Raping a girl and she magically likes it after. Like, I started reading this, The Sexual Adventures of You, the female path, and it was okay, until the rapist. I mean, I shook my head at the "good girl randomly has sex with the army dude", or has sex with her brother, or neighbor, or whatever. But, I read, until the rapist, and turning him into a sex slave. Yeah, just sort of threw up my hands and said okay, that is too much...get a female writer, or at least try, try, to imagine what a "good girl" would do. I mean, if you want to put that stuff, then make her the bad girl...
One thing I actually love about reading User:Teejay's stuff. He makes the characters human. Not that I read all his stuff, he tried to follow the story line, but some that have good options he can write about. --Dirty Me 14:47, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
Hmm, think you might be confused. I said on the good girl path, when the guy tries to rape the character, and he ends up in on the other end of his knife, the only option seems to be to turn him into a sex slave. I sort of liked the cut off his clothes and leave him there, but the author doesn't seem to be willing to let that happen, and keeps pushing towards keeping him as a sex slave. As for rape, did you read my path that I posted last time? That is exactly what it covers. I have been raped twice in real life, so I write from experience.
As for what Teejay writes, he tends to add on existing, not have a stand alone story. Special:Contributions/Teejay
One warning though, Platypus has warned you about categories, and I notice he is now deleting your pages. If you do not add them, he will ban you from this website. Don't be stubborn, just put category, even if you are still working on it...
Anyways, on a lighter note, here you go. Made this template just for you, so you can post and not need to worry about the 20 minute link thing:
lol, guess you liked my templates=P
btw, I changed your user page to the Index Link instead of Too Graphic Link. Mostly because I set up Index link for use on the main page, so it will not change much, but I cannot say the same thing for my too graphic link. After all, if I change it to pink, or red, are you sure you would want that? I just want to find a good color combination for it, and possibly see if I can use a background image in the future. --Dirty Me 01:43, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Going to add to them, but last week my brain just didn't want to think...I actually thought of something funny to do with Context, with a misnamed news story. Now to put it into reality. Yeah, my projects tend to be hit or miss xD --Dirty Me 01:30, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
No worries, saw the first message, and the second=P I think part of my problem is, at the beginning you kept telling everyone "Hey, I put up a page, please go to this link, check these out, then write stuff for it". It seemed more like you wanted others to write a story with your idea in mind. I noted Teejay had pointed out he would be willing to add, but wanted you to first so he could build on that. It is somewhat the same with me. I am more of the responder type than the initiator type normally. So, I guess it is good that you added some of the thoughts about what each character should be like. But, that is my other problem. I don't really feel anything when I read it. It doesn't spark anything that I really want to add. lol, Platypus just mentioned the same thing to me on my page xD When an idea strikes, sure, no problem adding, but hard to generate an idea from nothing. And sadly, you can sort of see what my writing moods have been lately, since I have been working more on DirtyMeStoryTime Rants, making fun of some of the stereotyped stories on here. Can you find the originals? The innocent path idea, DirtyMeStoryTime Rants/Horny for innocent girls, was the recent family story someone worked on, like AAF - The talk, "Ok, Scott. I trust you.", and AAF - It works.. All of these I removed the underage stuff. I mean, the writer had his 4th grade sister having sex with him...Notice how my innocent girl is 18, yet looks 10? Yeah, because I am making fun of that stuff. For a short time I started asking people on their talk page why everyone seemed to write that the girl was "DD", which is why I created DirtyMeStoryTime Rants/Horny for DD. I am even making fun of Smutty Sex Romp with DirtyMeStoryTime Rants/Horny for sluts. Once I finish the loop, the reader can just have the girl having sex forever, although they will only really have 8 options. I even added a new option to make fun of the Pokesex/Pokemon, but I still need to put the story in. Not sure how I will write that. Even Context, once I work on it, will have some options that will point out how absurd some writers paint women as on here. I am not really pointing at you, or at anyone specific. It is just me making fun of some common things I see on here. Like, sex with absolutely no story, although I must admit that I wrote a few things in Dirty Me simply to try to "fit in" and keep people wanting to read. One reason I sort of lost interest in working on it, when I found myself writing, not about my experiences, fantasies, or what I want to write about, but instead writing things just so more people would read, and falling into the same rut that many writers do on here. Anyways, think I have went on too long, and probably sound like a whiny bitch now...so I will stop typing. --Dirty Me 01:41, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Sorry if I intimidated you in my last message :o
Oh, and I added a bit of an "about me", well, about my real life experiences... if you are interested. User:DirtyMeStoryTime/IRL sex experiences --Dirty Me 02:37, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
btw, for your:
10. Are sex scenes or explicit sexual descriptions really necessary in a Adult CYOS? (O.K, not a important question for the story but it still stands.)
Honestly, I think they can be very good, and push the plot, letting you imagine yourself in the scene, if done right. However, I think many people tend to just throw out "Position, penetration, release, random gibberish".
Here, from my Dirty Me/Get the gun, just to scare him away, the rape scene, based on the first time I was raped irl.
You hear him yelling at you, but cannot grasp the meaning of the words. He jumps on you, yelling at you more, then you start feeling his hands. You feel him pulling your blouse, popping off buttons, ripping it off. His hand pulls at your pants, undoing them.
You lift your hands, trying to push him, to stop him, to fight him.
His fist connects with your stomach, knocking the air out of you, leaving you trying to catch your breath. When you finally do, it hurts, trying to suck in breath.
Your pants are around your knees.
You try to stop him again, and he punches you again, harder. You feel like throwing up, like your insides are hurt.
He takes your pants the rest of the way off, now that you are no longer trying to stop him, then rips your panties off.
You suddenly understand what he is about to do as he starts undoing his pants.
You yell at him, scream at him, but it doesn't matter. He forces your legs apart and punches you once more as you try to keep your legs closed, try to stop what he is doing.
He pushes in, and you scream, feeling him tearing your vagina, entering you dry. He ignores you, like a wild animal, and continues pushing himself in you, forcing himself deeper into you. You hurt so bad you cannot stop yourself from crying, sobbing, screaming. He pounds you for a short time before cumming inside you.
Laying on top of you, he rests for a few second before pushing himself up, getting off you.
He slaps your face a couple times, laughing, as pain blossoms on your cheeks.
Finally, he stands up, doing up his pants, and looking down at you in disgust, and maybe even a little guilt. You don't know because it is hard to see, as you sob in pain.
He leaves, with you curled up on the floor, crying.
Now, think about the way most people on here write about raping a girl. At first she is is all "eek, no Mr. don't do this to me" and then she is like "Oh god, I like your cock so much, I am glad you raped me". Seriously, read how many authors read about it. Now, read what I wrote again. Can you imagine the broken girl, battered and raped, the pain she is feeling, how it feels to be her?
Yeah, this is one of those cases where I honestly think, heavier description makes it more real. Of course, I guess the next question is: Do most people who write on this site really want to read about that, to think that the woman would feel like this?
Now, this one is a little long, so I will just leave you the link: dirtylittlemestories.blogspot.com/2013/09/slow-motion-love-final-polished-story.html
Read that one. Can you feel the love with it? That was what I wrote about me and my husband being intimate. Doesn't it paint a better picture of our love making, and the feelings inside of me, than just "We made love, he was tender, it was good"?
See, this is the problem. You read so many of these CYoS's that are just mindless "I want to imagine having sex with a woman like this" that I don't think you see the emotion. I think descriptions, while not always needed, nor always wanted, can pain the story.
Or, take for example, me loosing my virginity here: Dirty Me/Dream of your first time, doesn't that show the awkwardness of "the first time"? Yeah, I know, I fall into the same problems that others do on here, especially when I am just writing to make more story for people to read and not feeling it, but...
See, when I write a sex scene, I close my eyes. I picture it in my head. I go through the motions. I use toys if needed, fingers, hands. Then, I write, then close my eyes, imagine more, write more. At least when I am doing it right.
So, I do not completely agree that it does not help the story, if handled correctly. --Dirty Me 10:37, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Lol you are telling a girl about the annoying ways people on here write about breasts? If you read my stories I normally do not describe a female's size. In part so the reader can imagine it. In another part because I honestly do not want some comparison to myself. I am a c cup. How do you think I feel reading all of these "she has a pair of DDs". You know how hard it has been for me to find every instance of that and either put my own size in to replace, or just remove?
As for the cup/bust size, at least they are trying to figure out how a woman works. I have mentioned that to people here before. But yeah... notice my dd rant story? That was to keep from going bitch mode on people...
And I understand too many ideas. Just look at how complete mine are...
Sadly, right now I just have a phone with bad internet to type on... --Dirty Me 04:21, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
Lol I noticed you removed "at least you have a life". Does that mean I don't? =p --Dirty Me 03:11, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
lol, I am home, so back to normal tomorrow. And, not much time for laying around. I have a 2 year old son, and he keeps me plenty busy xD I just reread your message, and now understand what you said. idk, are you a girl? --Dirty Me 12:58, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
lol, so much to address.
You do know I speak fluent Chinglish, so the grammar on my talk page doesn't matter too much. No need to correct mistakes. If I can understand Google Translate's mess of a Chinese to English translation, I can normally figure out what is meant xD
A. Random question: who do you like, Wolverine or Cyclops? - I am a game girl, but I can't really say I really know much about the comics thing. I know who they are, but...honestly, I would say wolverine, but more because I have seen him more. I really can't answer that.
B. Are the pictures you've put on your page pictures of you or just random pictures? In the Too Graphic (or my status on my user page?)? Random pics that I think match the story, but...I really have not done much with that. I am not as much of a visual person. I started that because on my blog, I took a poll, and more people wished I used more pictures. But...you can see how far I have gotten on that story...tells you how "graphically oriented" I am. Sorry, I don't share my pic because I have had bad experiences. Teejay knows, since he has read my blog and been talking to me for a long time, but...
So, one day I was talking to someone on a game I was playing. We had known each other for a while, and I was feeling...frisky...so, I sent him my picture. Soon after, I started getting strange messages on my facebook. We started getting strange calls at the house. It started out strange, and turned scary. Basically, the guy had released my pics and personal information to a revenge porn site. I got rape threats. Death threats. We ended up having to change our phone number. We ended up having to move. It was horrifying. And, taught me about what it means to be a girl on the internet.
Here is what I wrote on another website I used to post things in (This was a general post on that site because I was constantly getting asked about sharing pics or skyping or kiking, or whatever, but it should give you a good idea):
So, I constantly get asked to send pics, to cam, to whatever.
I guess before people add me, let me explain a little about my life.
I was the victim of a revenge porn site. I was talking to someone for over a year online, and one day I was feeling a little naughty. I sent him some nude pics.
So, we had a fun cyber, and that was the end.
Until one day I started getting some very disturbing text messages, facebook messages, etc.
Rape threats.
Death threats.
Sex solicitations.
I was not even 18. It seems the person I sent the pics to posted them on a revenge porn site, and put my real life information next to it.
I was scared, for my life, for my body. My father called the police, and was told they could not do anything about it. We changed addresses, we changed phone numbers. We became unregistered because of what this one guy did on the internet.
So, call me paranoid if you want, call me whatever you want, but this is my life. I will not give you my facebook information. I will not give you my skype information. I will not join kik and cam with you.
I have fun writing naughty stories. I love writing, and some are erotica. I don't mind if you want to try to rp with me. Or if you want some naughty messages back and forth. But don't bother asking, because I will not send you anything other than a message on EP.
Block me if you want, I don't care. You didn't go through hell because you were young, stupid, and send nude pictures to someone. I did. I will not repeat that experience.
And don't bother trying to tell me "I am not like that". How would I know what you are like? I met you through some random, anonymous website. I don't know you, so don't even play that game with me.
So, please remember, don't ask, because you already know the answer...
Of course, if you want to read more about what made me "me" (with all my thorns and mental brokeness), you can read my blog entry: dirtylittlemestories.blogspot.com/2013/08/damaged-goods-about-me.html
So, have I shared my pic after that point? Honestly, yes. But, it is something that for the most part I have a rule about, because I have been through the horrors of being "open"... Here, you can also read this: dirtylittlemestories.blogspot.com/2016/01/just-another-rant-on-society-and.html
It will give you a little understanding of why I do not really share like I would love to. I guess the bad experience sort of turned me camera shy. Even my parents complain they never get pics of me...
C.Hmmm. Could be. What if I am? Would it matter? Honestly, I am not judgemental. I actually have a friend who is m3f transgender, and my husband's sister is f2m transgender. My friend wants to fully transition, but my sister-in-law (who has also been my past lover...shhh, don't tell my husband about that though, he thinks we are just friends, which we are now, but weren't always) will never transition or even try to live as a male because if she did, her family would completely disown her. It is a sad situation where she can't really be her, the family's "known" secret. So, you can be whomever you want, and I will not judge. As long as you are happy and not harming others I don't really mind.
D. You know, I think you just might be one of-scratch that, the only writer on this website I have a inkling of respect for because you're the only writer who actually CARES about her work, who's trying to write. You seem to put more effort in your writing then I've seen in many adult CYOSs and for that, you have my regard. Thanks ^.^ Always nice to hear positive feedback. Yes, I try, but that is also my curse. One reason why I go through writing spurts, then nothing for a long time. Because, I have tried to force myself. If you want to see my writing when I try to force it, just to please my readers, read this path: Dirty Me/The adult video store
This was just that...forcing myself to create some alternative. This: Dirty Me/The park is based on a real life experience though, so it is a better story (well, if you think a girl actually doing something like that makes a good story, but that is another matter=P). --Dirty Me 02:22, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
I am in a somewhat whimsical mood right now, so working on the Wasteland Survival Guide. I guess my first question is: Have you ever played the fallout games? Especially 3, but for chapter 4+, it will be for others. For Chapter 1-3, I would like help seeing if I am doing very good in imitating Moria's style in my writing. But, I guess if you have not played the games, then nothing you can really help with. --Dirty Me 06:28, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Teejay's talk
If you could do a page or two on your new stories, just so I can get a feel for them, I'd be happy to contribute. -- Teejay
I will look at Anime School then. Thanks for suggesting it. -- Teejay
Anime School says "Do Not Edit." -- Teejay
Formality is definitely not necessary. I'm the casual type. :) I suppose if it's been a while, even though it says Do Not Edit... -- Teejay
I love collaborations! I did a nice one with AgentVincent on a section of Rampage a couple years back. -- Teejay
So I'm not trying to write? I'm insulted!
J/k. I know I'm not as good a writer as Dirty Me. I do my best, but writing isn't my strong point. I do enjoy it though. -- Teejay
Happy Ramadan. -- Teejay