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[23:26] Lkeas: ...

[23:27] Lkeas: good evening, Falerin :)

[23:27] Burakku_Usagi: Hello, Falerin.

[23:27] Falerin: Not a heart warming initial greeting to be sure

[23:27] Lkeas: sorry

[23:27] Falerin: Good Evening to you both

[23:27] *** Burakku_Usagi is now known as Leo.

[23:27] Lkeas: what keeps you up this night?

[23:28] Leo: Falerin, this came up earlier.

[23:28] Leo: : [14:56] <Lkeas> Kaliope says the Avatars of all worlds are needed, yet the Seeker has said that the Avatar cannot know they are being controlled or it would cause chaos

[23:28] Leo: : [14:56] <Lkeas> so then the question is, how can we know who the avatars are, and how can we get them to unite if we can't tell them who they are?

[23:28] Leo: Care to enlighten us on the matter?

[23:28] Lkeas: heh. :)

[23:33] * Lkeas yawns

[23:33] Lkeas: i suppose i shall not be enlightened tonight...

[23:33] Lkeas: i'm gonna go home now...

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[23:33] Lkeas: goodnight, Leo!

[23:34] * Lkeas bows to the LoreMaster

[23:34] Lkeas: until we meet again ;)

[23:34] Leo: Good bye, Lkeas.

Session Close (#755): Mon Oct 09 23:34:22 2006 Session Start (AdventureQuest:#755): Tue Oct 10 00:00:44 2006

[00:00] *** Initial topic: Social Inquiry

[00:00] *** #755: Lkeas Lex Falerin Mephistos Alphonse fulcan: [sleepsys] bluemanrocks kingk Durroth KickKat bob Leo Sleepyman444

[00:00] *** #755 was created on Sat Sep 30 05:35:38 2006.

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[00:00] Leo: Lkeas?

[00:01] Lkeas: i needed that.

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[00:23] Falerin: Hmm

[00:23] Lkeas: Hmm?

[00:23] Falerin: <Falerin> ahem

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[00:23] Falerin: <Leo> Yes, Falerin?

[00:23] Falerin: <Falerin> Time waits for no one.

[00:23] Falerin: <Falerin> There are ways to learn the truth without revealing it

[00:23] Falerin: <Falerin> and there are ways to reveal the truth without shattering everything

[00:23] Falerin: <Lex> ok...

[00:23] Falerin: <Leo> Hmmm. Intresting.

[00:23] Falerin: <Falerin> Before the truth can be learned however...

[00:23] Falerin: <Falerin> You must be looking in the right places

[00:23] Falerin: <Falerin> And before it can be revealed

[00:23] Falerin: <Falerin> It must be learned.

[00:23] Falerin: <Falerin> I hope my answer to you was direct enough to be informative....

[00:23] Falerin: <Leo> It did help, alittle.

[00:23] Falerin: <Leo> Unfortunatly, Falerin. Thats the only question I have prepared. And I'm to tired to think of any.

[00:23] Falerin: <Lex> hmm.......

[00:23] Falerin: * Lex thinks of a question

[00:23] Falerin: <Lex> is there any regulations to the questions i may ask?

[00:23] Falerin: <Leo> We have to be direct and precise.

[00:23] Falerin: <Falerin> None... but I always reserve the right to ignore the question or redirect

[00:23] Falerin: <Lex> ok...

[00:23] Falerin: <Lex> what made you decide to start Caelestia fal?

[00:24] Falerin: <Falerin> ((If you are asking that question out of chracter my response will likely not satisfy. I have already established that I talk in character in this channel))

[00:24] Falerin: <Falerin> I am not the Creator of caelestia...

[00:24] Falerin: <Falerin> I am but a being from that location

[00:24] Falerin: <Leo> ((I don't think he has read the latest logs, Fal))

[00:24] Falerin: <Lex> i feel like the greatest idiot that ever lived...

[00:24] Lkeas: thank you, duly noted and logged :)

[00:24] Lex: ...

[00:24] Leo: Sorry about that, Lkeas.

[00:24] Lkeas: it's ok, a bad sense of timing on my part

[00:24] Lkeas: but i really needed to get out of the office

[00:25] Falerin: I do not blame you

[00:25] Lkeas: on the bright side, i finished the layout for my latest shot

[00:25] * Lkeas feels accomplished

[00:25] Falerin: Hanging arround such a horrible place after hours....

[00:25] Falerin: Why If I had to hang arround such a place I might just kill myself

[00:25] Lkeas: ...

[00:25] Falerin: If I were you I Would HATE my job utterly

[00:25] Lkeas: sarcasm duly noted and logged :)

[00:25] Falerin: xd

[00:26] * Leo laughs.

[00:31] * Falerin drifts back IC

[00:32] Lkeas: so when you answered my question... are there places we can look that are "right?" or are they yet to be revealed?

[00:33] Falerin: Look for those who are inordinately gifted....

[00:33] * Falerin yawns

[00:34] Lkeas: hmm

[00:34] Lkeas: but what do we do if we think we've found one?

[00:34] Falerin: Share the theory with each other

[00:34] Lkeas: i see

[00:34] * Falerin wonders at the Seeker's recent postings and changes

[00:35] Falerin: Yesterday he posted nothing just made many music changes

[00:35] Falerin: and then....

[00:35] Leo: We already noticed, Fal.

[00:35] Lkeas: and then?

[00:35] Lkeas: the guide and the wayfinder?

[00:35] Falerin: In the Early morning today he began posting several things to various places....

[00:35] Falerin: He also changed his avatar

[00:35] Lkeas: yes... a rabbit.

[00:35] Falerin: On both the Forums and on MySpace

[00:36] Falerin: I wonder what he is trying to say with that... hmmm

[00:36] Lkeas: a gray rabbit...

[00:36] Falerin: According to logs I have read

[00:36] Falerin: When he showed up earlier before kingk chased him off

[00:36] Lkeas: heh

[00:37] Falerin: He said that his reasoning for the previous avatar was to "Expose the Faceless" to the light

[00:37] Lkeas: yes, i was wondering about that

[00:37] Falerin: Presumably the light being a metaphor of truth....

[00:37] Falerin: The light of truth

[00:37] Lkeas: that was the assumption, yes

[00:37] Falerin: Interestingly.... if you look at that avatar though... its still in his myspace photos I think just not set to his default

[00:38] Falerin: its titled "journalism

[00:38] Lkeas: that's... an odd thing for it to say.

[00:38] Falerin: And the light... that strikes the Faceless......

[00:38] Lkeas: but i suppose one of the goals of journalism is bringing the truth to light

[00:38] Falerin: Well it may be just me of course and I have already read odd things into images

[00:39] Lkeas: oh, do read more :)

[00:39] * Leo wonders why The Traveller came to point it out.

[00:39] Falerin: But does it look to you as if the light strikes the faceless and bounces off where its face should be back out again.....

[00:39] Lkeas: that... that's true

[00:39] Lkeas: the light reflects?

[00:39] Falerin: Thats the way it looks to me

[00:40] Falerin: But maybe I am imagining it

[00:40] Lkeas: very odd.

[00:40] Lkeas: no, i can see it too

[00:40] Lkeas: i hadn't noticed it before

[00:40] Lkeas: but what would it mean? if the light is a metaphor for truth, then the faceless reflects the truth back?

[00:41] Falerin: Hmm... I do not know

[00:41] Falerin: His recent musical selections have been of an oddly eclectic vein

[00:41] Falerin: More then normal... and I do not mean styles as they have always been diverse

[00:41] Falerin: but rather messages

[00:42] Lkeas: and why would the seeker want to expose the true nature of the faceless if he knew it would cause chaos? it doesn't make sense... he says he has a list that he would not reveal, and yet he posts pictures indicating he wishes to reveal the truth

[00:43] Falerin: nature and identity are different things

[00:43] Falerin: Perhaps he seeks to reveal the nature of the faceless but not their identity

[00:43] Lkeas: perhaps

[00:43] Falerin: This song on his blog page.. may have been instrumental... but it has a person singing in it too

[00:43] Falerin: Just not words

[00:43] Falerin: Humming

[00:44] Lkeas: true

[00:44] Lkeas: i guess "instrumental" was not the best description for it

[00:44] Falerin: Also... he changed the whole Scheme of the sight

[00:44] Falerin: er site

[00:44] Falerin: though the double entendre in this case is apropo

[00:44] Lkeas: heh

[00:44] Falerin: Anyone notice what it appears like now

[00:46] Lkeas: it's... got colors?

[00:46] Falerin: Well yes.. but its color scheme is used elsewhere

[00:46] Falerin: Its background color for certain is taken directly from AQ

[00:47] Falerin: Its entire scheme is very AQ CSS like

[00:47] Lkeas: hmm.

[00:47] Falerin: Which may be nothing but astetics

[00:48] Falerin: but its not accidental to be certain

[00:48] Lkeas: well, it does seem as though events and clues are leading up to something in-game

[00:48] Falerin: As for the rabbit....

[00:48] Falerin: Yes it is Gray

[00:48] Falerin: Thats peculiar

[00:48] Lkeas: heh.

[00:49] Leo: Atleast it isn't a Burakku Usagi.

[00:49] Lkeas: quite.

[00:49] Falerin: Especially given he changed it very nearly at the same time as posting a video of Live

[00:49] Falerin: Singing "The Beauty of Gray"

[00:49] Falerin: a song I happen to like... actually

[00:50] Falerin: And why... I wonder does he reduce the senses fail video down to tiny box and just mark it as music

[00:50] Falerin: as if the video were not there...

[00:50] Lkeas: yeah... that was kinda tricky

[00:50] Lkeas: i had to dig through the source code to find that one

[00:51] Falerin: The video is just a collage of stills

[00:52] Falerin: Mostly of the Band itself from appearances

[00:52] Lkeas: grey is an interesting color, to be sure. and most appropriate considering how good and evil, light and dark, etc. are all up in the air at this point

[00:52] Falerin: Though..... there is a very odd bit at the beginining....

[00:52] Lkeas: yes, that phrase about truth

[00:52] Falerin: And in the video....

[00:52] Falerin: It says "Still Searching 10/10/2006"

[00:53] Lkeas: wait.. that's tomorrow isn' t it?

[00:53] Falerin: Its now

[00:53] Lkeas: well... today i guess.

[00:53] Falerin: But it was... tommorow when he posted it

[00:54] Lkeas: if tomorrow is today, does that mean he will find what he's looking for?

[00:55] Lkeas: if he's actually looking for something...?

[00:55] Falerin: Ah.. it appears it may just be a coincidence....

[00:55] Falerin: Apparently the title of their new album is "Still Searching"

[00:55] Falerin: and it was released today

[00:55] Falerin: ....tho...

[00:55] Lkeas: oh

[00:56] Falerin: Coincidences do not make me comforable

[00:56] Falerin: I mistrust them

[00:56] Lkeas: heh

[00:56] Falerin: And I never put it past something to have double triple or even more meanings

[00:56] Lkeas: "It seems what is lost will be found by the chosen child of morbid creation"

[00:56] Lkeas: unrelated?

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[01:10] Lkeas: yay!

[01:10] Macer: nice one

[01:10] Leo: Now, back on topic or IC, whichever.

[01:10] Lkeas: er... what were we talking about?

[01:10] Macer: i don't know i just found this place

[01:10] Lkeas: ah yes. coincidences

[01:11] Leo: <Lkeas> "It seems what is lost will be found by the chosen child of morbid creation"

[01:11] Leo: <Lkeas> unrelated?

[01:12] Lkeas: right... it's probably not related, though... just trying to see if there was connection between "still searching" and "will be found"

[01:13] Falerin: hmm

[01:13] Falerin: Ok now he is just getting Bizzare

[01:13] Lkeas: revelation 3:16?

[01:13] * Lkeas looks up bible passage

[01:13] Leo: Hmm.

[01:14] Falerin: And it autoplays a video on opening the blog

[01:14] Lkeas: So, because you are lukewarm, neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth.

[01:14] Lkeas: ...

[01:14] Leo: Darn it, I need to update quicktime.

[01:15] Macer: Revelation 3:16 is not relevent to truth

[01:16] Falerin: What pray has that passage to do with the Video

[01:16] Falerin: And what the heck is he trying to say

[01:17] Lkeas: i have... absolutely no idea

[01:17] Lkeas: the revelation bit seems to match his grey rabbit

[01:20] Falerin: Hrmmm

[01:20] Falerin: Do NOT link this song

[01:20] Falerin: I get the point

[01:20] Lkeas: ok

[01:20] Falerin: but I need to smack someone

[01:21] Lkeas: yes

[01:21] Lkeas: please

[01:21] Falerin: the song has Explicit Lyrics

[01:21] Lkeas: tell them to get rid of it quick before the kids wake up

[01:22] Leo: Who needs wings to fly! Even without wings, I can still fly!

[01:22] Macer: where is the truth video?

[01:22] Leo: Heh, no matter what context that line is used in, it's horrible.

[01:22] Lkeas: lol

[01:22] Lkeas: truth video?

[01:23] Macer: : [04:16] <Falerin> What pray has that passage to do with the Video

[01:23] Leo: Yay! qicktime is working.

[01:24] Lkeas: the video that unfortunately is still up...

[01:24] Lkeas: well... explicit lyrics aside, it seems seeker is again telling us we have to choose sides

[01:24] Lkeas: black or white

[01:24] Lkeas: there is no grey area as far as he is concerned

[01:25] Lkeas: even though he presents himself as a grey rabbit

[01:25] Macer: i am glad i missed most of truth's stuff now

[01:25] Leo: Don't follow him? Is that his message?

[01:26] Macer: its interesting when i am board but it gives me a headache

[01:26] Lkeas: not sure

[01:29] * Lkeas wonders if Falerin's giving the smackdown to The Seeker atm

[01:30] Falerin: Changed

[01:30] Falerin: Though not without commentary

[01:30] Lkeas: smacked :)

[01:31] Lkeas: lol nice commentary

[01:32] Falerin: He has repeatedly said we must choose sides

[01:33] Leo: The Seeker has my answer.

[01:33] Lkeas: and yet his avatar and the bible passage suggest that he has not chosen one himself?

[01:33] Falerin: I dunno.. the bible passage is about what God does to those who remain neutral

[01:33] Falerin: So I suppose thats the point

[01:34] Falerin: His avatar... stresses there is no black and white

[01:34] Falerin: He is a walking contradiction rolled up in an enigma with a side of condundrum

[01:34] Lkeas: aptly put.

[01:35] Falerin: Even the emoticon he uses for that post...

[01:35] Falerin: ... he feels 'quixotic'

[01:35] Macer: Fal you have a way with words

[01:36] Lkeas: quixotic? impulsive and rashly unpredictable?

[01:36] Lkeas: or perhaps...

[01:36] Lkeas: Caught up in the romance of noble deeds and the pursuit of unreachable goals; idealistic without regard to practicality.

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[01:37] Macer: hello

[01:37] TruthSeeker: Morning

[01:37] Lkeas: greetings, Seeker

[01:37] Leo: Greeting, Seeker.

[01:37] TruthSeeker: Greetings puritan

[01:38] Falerin: That is quite enough of that

[01:38] Lkeas: hmph.

[01:38] * TruthSeeker waves at Falerin dismissively

[01:38] TruthSeeker: "Why should we hold on to the ideas of a people long gone that talking about the processes of the body... or love or lust.. or strong emotion.... are bad...."

[01:39] Lkeas: hmm

[01:39] Falerin: You preach to the Choir in general... Howver... we should be concerned by the fact that parents will object to their children seeing such things

[01:39] Falerin: Even if you disagree with their objection they are part of the audience

[01:39] Falerin: and if indeed the audience is a player in this play... by ostracizing them you hurt your cause

[01:40] Falerin: Now kindly climb down OFF your high horse

[01:40] Lkeas: quite true

[01:40] TruthSeeker: As you will

[01:40] TruthSeeker: I can express my message equally well with alternate choices

[01:40] Lkeas: would you care to explain why you preach that we should choose sides while remaining in a neutral area yourself?

[01:40] Falerin: Precisely why you should select choices that offend nothing

[01:41] TruthSeeker: I am not at all neutral

[01:41] Lkeas: then why a grey rabbit?

[01:41] Macer: what side are you on

[01:41] TruthSeeker: Because nothing is black or white... and because while I serve Creation I am a Servant of Uncreation

[01:41] TruthSeeker: I AM a contradiction

[01:41] Macer: that much is true

[01:42] Lkeas: i see

[01:42] TruthSeeker: There is no escaping the fact....

[01:42] TruthSeeker: My choice however is creation....

[01:42] TruthSeeker: Regardless of what errors I made in my impetiousness

[01:42] Lkeas: why would remaining neutral be destructive?

[01:42] TruthSeeker: Whatever rash and quixotic passions ruled my mind

[01:43] Lkeas: how can you ask us to choose sides when we are uninformed as to which sides are which?

[01:43] Falerin: Ask Henry Tillman

[01:43] Macer: its not hard to find out

[01:43] TruthSeeker: Precisely my thought LoreMaker

[01:43] TruthSeeker: Ask Henry Tillman indeed

[01:44] Lkeas: hmm.

[01:44] Macer: who is henry tillman

[01:45] TruthSeeker: Though I myself was going for the older cliche

[01:45] Falerin: You would....

[01:45] Falerin: Little imagination

[01:45] Falerin: Linear thinking....

[01:45] Falerin: It marks all of your kind.

[01:45] Lkeas: older?

[01:45] Lkeas: his kind?

[01:45] TruthSeeker: Bah

[01:46] Lkeas: i must unfortunately take my leave

[01:47] Falerin: Henry Tillman is a chemist

[01:48] Falerin: Not to be confused with the boxer

[01:48] Lkeas: goodnight Seeker, Falerin; i will research Tillman later...

[01:48] Falerin: His most famous quotation is the following Chemical Pun

[01:48] Macer: goodnight Lkeas

[01:48] Falerin: "If you are not part of the Solution. You are part of the Precipitate"

[01:48] Macer: ah

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[18:48] <Falerin> By referencing the older cliche he is implying that failing to choose sides is in fact making a choice

[18:48] <Falerin> The older cliche of course being

[18:48] <Falerin> "If you are not part of the Solution. You are part of the problem"

[18:48] <Macer> that one i knew

[18:49] <TruthSeeker> I have also said and mark this well

[18:49] <TruthSeeker> Choices should be on principles not people.

[18:49] <TruthSeeker> I seek not to divide people but positions.

[18:50] * TruthSeeker has quit IRC (Vanished: )

[18:50] <Falerin> <TruthSeeker> The light of the index will shine on creations heels and the walls will thin.

[18:50] <Falerin> What a gem that is

[18:50] <Falerin> I am off

[18:50] * Falerin is now known as Falerin-: [Asleep]

[18:50] * Falerin-: [Asleep] is away Snoring gently in the canopy...