Fruit Baskets and Faceless

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Lord_Me: hey, the Seeker's online

Lkeas: he is?

*** TruthSeeker: No such nick/channel.

*** End of /WHOIS.

Lkeas: oh on myspace?

Lord_Me: yup

Lkeas: yeah he gets on at odd times doesn't he?

Lord_Me: yeah, i don't see why he posted the same blog twice though =/

Lkeas: it is interesting, isn't it?

Lkeas: what do you think it means?

Lord_Me: i dunno, either a mistake, or there's a hidden message in one.

Lkeas: hmm

Leo_Biaxomus: I stand by my theory about it, we have to make a choice between two sides.

Lkeas: ah, hello Leo

Leo_Biaxomus: Hello, Lkeas.

Lkeas: what if we do not choose either side? or what if the two sides are really the same?

Leo_Biaxomus: An answer I not have.

Lkeas: but yeah Lord, i looked at both entries pretty carefully... haven't been able to see a difference between them at all

Lkeas: both entries the same, yet two sides... if both sides are really the same, and we are "choosing" the same thing, aren't we just all choosing one side? are we united after all?

Lkeas: except for the fact that people believe they are on two sides

Lord_Me: he's delted the second one

Lord_Me: I think that explains it

Lkeas: hmm.

Lkeas: that could explain it, or it could only make it more confusing

Lkeas: a lot of things about his blog are transient

Lord_Me: "MySpace accidentally double posted this blog entry, This has caused people to believe the message has either hidden meaning is highly important or that there was some mystical diffence between the two messages.

Lord_Me: Ironically two out of three of these is true enough so I suppose the error on myspace was fortuitous."

Lord_Me: from the Seeker

Lkeas: hmm

Leo_Biaxomus: Does anyone know the meaning of the new song?

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Lkeas: there is yet another new song?

Lord_Me: nope, i'll look for some lyrics

Leo_Biaxomus: Yes

Leo_Biaxomus: Live Like You Were - Tim Mcgraw

>Ambiance<: A bright light suddenly appears in the heavens and brings light to the channel stunning all in its brilliance

>Ambiance<: A chorus of angels appears from within the light with lyres and harps.

* ChorusOfAngels begin to sing.....

ChorusOfAngels: Halelujah he is coming.. Oh glorious day Aaaaaaaaaaleluia....

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* Falerin turns and looks at the angels.

Falerin: That was great you can go now.

* Falerin turns back to the channel with a smirk and asks "So anyone miss me?"

Lord_Me: um, google search comes up with live like you were dying

Lkeas: yeah i was just going to point out the omitted word

Lord_Me: I missed ya

Lord_Me: probably wasn't enough space

Falerin: So what do you think of my new join

Lkeas: it's quite good

Falerin: pretty sweet huh

Falerin: XD

Leo_Biaxomus: unimpressive.

Lkeas: :P

Falerin: There is no accounting for some peoples tastes... or total lack of it Leo_Biaxomus

*** You are now known as Lkeas[phone].

* Falerin turns to people that actually matter

Falerin: So whats new

Lord_Me: you're stories don't seem so long anymore :P

Leo_Biaxomus: *crys* How could you say that! you big meanie! *crys*

Lkeas[phone]: aww

* Lkeas[phone] pats Leo's head

Falerin: Forum emotes... how sophmorish

Falerin: Thats done as follows

* Falerin cries "How could you say that! you big meanie!" tears streaming down his face

Lkeas[phone]: man, you're good.

Falerin: Though of course I would not cry...nor say meanie as I graduated 3rd grade

*** You are now known as Lkeas.

Lord_Me: i would, given the chance

Leo_Biaxomus: Loritha, I hate loremasters.

Lkeas: lol

Falerin: Now why is it my stories seem shorter Leo

Falerin: You hate me.. how strongly you feel...

Lkeas: i think that was Lord who said that

Lord_Me: um, yeah, hi

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Alphonse: actually short or long doesnt matter.. its the quality that counts

* Falerin scribbles note on paper "Note to Self take Leo_Biaxomus of Gift basket list for Christmas he hates you"

Falerin: Ah so it was... Lord_Me

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Lord_Me: quality schmuality

Leo_Biaxomus: Pssh, you only send fruit, anyway.

Lord_Me: shortness > goodness

Falerin: Why is it they seem shorter now...? Because my join was so long... or because you actually have read them....

Lord_Me: basically because I'm almost done

Falerin: Shortness > Goodness is the most idiotic thing you have said to date.....

* Lkeas gets a D- in her reading homework

Lord_Me: actually, I have said stupider things, but for all you know, it is

Falerin: At least most people who have such an idiotic attitude cannot be bothered to actually read anything of substance anyway

Falerin: and hence will not survive the next purging

* Falerin turns to Lkeas ... i realize you work but.. shame shame on you

Lkeas: :-(

Leo_Biaxomus: I really need to read an IRC manual, and take grammar lessons.

Falerin: the command to emote is called /me

Alphonse: but Lkeas is not really a human =) she is a vixen ^^ so getting a D is like an A for human =p

Lkeas: /you?

Falerin: it is formatted /me <what you do>

Lord_Me: LORD Me?

Lkeas: wow, i'm a vixen

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Alphonse: vixen = female fox :p~~

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Leo_Biaxomus: I know, Falarin. I'm not a complete idiot.

Lkeas: ROFL

Lord_Me: that guy's indecisive

Lkeas: lionel twain?

Falerin: It also means a sedcutress

* Falerin turns to Leo_Biaxomus "Really... could have fooled me"

Leo_Biaxomus: ..Then again, i just spelled Falerin, "Falarin".

Falerin: Precisely

Lkeas: man you guys are funny at night

Lkeas: Murder By Death was a hilarious movie

Falerin: It was indeed

Lord_Me: yeah, I've never seen Falerin so full of comebacks

* Leo_Biaxomus Throws keyboard out the window, wait, how am I supposed to communicate, then?

Lkeas: LOL

Falerin: LionelTwain is Lionel@nexus.novawillsaveyou.org * Mr. Lionel Twain

Lkeas: erm

Lord_Me: TWAIN!

Lord_Me: he's related to Matthew Twain, you know >_>

Lkeas: no doubt :P

Leo_Biaxomus: So, thats why he sounded familar.

Falerin: Truman Capote played him in the movie

Lkeas: he was quite good

Falerin: his only "Acting" role.. he should have done more he was almost as good an actor as a writer

Lkeas: yeah

* Lord_Me just nods, looking intelligable

Lkeas: you should watch the movie, Lord_Me, it's really funny

Lkeas: although the ending could have been better

Lkeas: a fault with most comedies :-/

Falerin: As it happens LionelTwain appears to be a bot.. who runs an IRC version of the game Clue/Cluedo in the channel #cluedo

Lord_Me: but he's a twain, so i don't like him

Lkeas: eh. too many Twains around here

* Lkeas kicks a few Twains out

Falerin: How intelligent....

Falerin: Dislike Samuel Longhorne Clemens too then do we?

* Lord_Me refrain from join #cluedo >_>;

Lord_Me: who?

Lkeas: no, i said Twains.

Lkeas: i am aware Mark Twain was a pen name

Falerin: The author wrote all of his Literature under the name Twain

Falerin: It is what he was effectively known as....

Falerin: Largely this is because he was a pretty political man and well known in social circles

Lkeas: so he wanted to hide his fame?

Falerin: Possibly or possibly he was afraid his politics would affect the sale of his writing

Lkeas: i see

Falerin: Or would effect peoples opinions about other unrealted matters

Falerin: I can relate to that sentiment myself at times

Lkeas: i imagine you could

Falerin: People do like to combine irrelevant things together

Lkeas: :-/ we can't help if it's near impossible to tell the relevant things from the irrelevant

* Leo_Biaxomus is thinking, yes I can think. Anyway, Leo_Biaxomus is thinking why we aren't disccusing Truth, and Truth related things.

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Lord_Me884: >_>

Lord_Me884: PING!

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Lord_Me884: ^_^

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Falerin: Apparently we are...

Falerin: As Matthew Twain is the founder of NOVA

Lkeas: right

Lord_Me: don't forget Robert Twain

Leo_Biaxomus: True, but we were starting to go off topic.

Lord_Me: and isn't Lisa Smith that family too?

Falerin: I do not know their family tree... I am not privy to it... I do not know if Daniel married in or Lisa did

Falerin: one did anyway

Lkeas: if we must draw connections, then NOVA was apparently involved in the sudden "illness" of the messenger and perhaps the sudden disappearance of Truth

Falerin: As for that I already gave a lecture on people trying to forbid off topic discussion here

Lord_Me: Lisa would've, coz she's a smith

Falerin: I am against it

Falerin: Off topic discussion serves several highly valuable purposes..... and should be embraced

Lkeas: but again... that is making several assumptions

Leo_Biaxomus: I don't mind people going off topic, but you do know alot more then us, and I want you to enlighten us.

Lkeas: what would you like to ask him Leo?

Lord_Me: assumptions make the world go 'round

Falerin: Why should I enlighten you sir... You hate me...

Lkeas: hmm. is hate a relative word? ;)

Lord_Me: can you enlighten me? I'm open to long stories, y'know >_>

Lkeas: ugh. no long stories tonight, i'm gonna go to sleep in a while

Lord_Me: i hate sleep

Lord_Me: i wish i were undead

* Leo_Biaxomus panics, grabs a pie, throws it in Falerin's face, and runs away.

Lkeas: ah, see, it IS a relative word :)

Lkeas: hmm. Leo is fond of pie

Falerin: You also assume that I include only fruit in my gift baskets.... While some wonderful otherworldy fruits may make an apperance. Ambrosia from Olympus is always popular. I do tend to be far more selective in my gifts. Nothing I do, especially gift giving, is done without thinking it quite thoroughly out thank you.

Leo_Biaxomus: No, I am not. People on the forums have started to brainwash me.

* Falerin disintegrates the pie midflight with a flict of his small finger

Falerin: Puhlesse

Lkeas: heh

Leo_Biaxomus: Well, sorry for jumping to conclussion, Falerin.

Lord_Me: why is Seeker's birthday 99 on thehomepage of his myspace, but 100 on his blogs?

Falerin: But you of course will never know that... for while I might forgive people for "hating" me... once of the Holiday List always off

Lkeas: lol

Falerin: That is peculiar and I have noted that too

Falerin: Its always hopping between 99 and 100

Lord_Me: is it his birthday maybe?

Falerin: Which seems to be a mockery of the organization NOVA setting their age at 100

Falerin: When they clearly state in literature they are much younger

Falerin: Of course I am somewhat alarmed that the orginzation as a whole does not want Children....

Falerin: Perhaps they are some of those Zero population growth nutjobs

Lkeas: heh. well, earth is getting rather crowded

Lord_Me: isn't that what the devourer wants?

Falerin: Hardly.....

* Leo_Biaxomus starts acting like a good little boy, and sucks up to Mr. Falaerin.

Lkeas: i thought you didn't like the fruit Leo

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Leo_Biaxomus: I don't, but I am not fond of being left out.

Falerin: As a person who has a degree in biology familiar with population ecology and economics I can assure you that the earth can sustain a much higher population then those people seem to believe

Lkeas: yes, but that would require a lot more international cooperation

Lkeas: and a substantial overhaul of economic and social systems

Falerin: The united states throws away or destroys more crops/food each year then it would take to feed all of the starving countries of the world

Falerin: twice over

Falerin: In some cases they actually give farmers incentives to destroy....

Lkeas: yes, i've heard of such stupidities

Falerin: Because an excess of product in local market would drive inflantion wild

Lkeas: it's ridiculous

Falerin: And because otherwise they would loose their livelihoods to market price plummeting

*** Leo_Biaxomus is now known as Leo|Remaining_Quiet.

Falerin: Why they do not take those exact same incentives and buy excess product and ship it overseas

Falerin: one wonders

* Falerin turns to Leo

Lkeas: ok well, if Leo's gonna stay shut up, i'll bring up his question again - what else do we need to know about Truth and Truth-related stuff?

Falerin: As for you if its one thing I detest more fully then a person who apparently bears me hostility through no fault of my own it is someone who is what the modern people term hypocrisy and/or being twofaced. Brown nosing sycophantry will get you nothing except perhaps an extra hot immolation on your funeral pyre

Lkeas: nice

Falerin: I abhor a suck up

Lkeas: sorry

Falerin: If I am to be admired I prefer it be honest... and if not then being detested is fine so long as I have earned it

Falerin: Which if Leo keeps up his current tact will be quite soon

Falerin: and that was not to you Lkeas

*** Lord_Me has signed off IRC (NickServ (GHOST command used by Lord_Me821)).

Falerin: I do accept compliments honestly given

* Leo|Remaining_Quiet thinks Falaerin is a pain, but repects his oppinion.

*** Leo|Remaining_Quiet is now known as Leo_Biaxomus.

Lkeas: alright

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Lord_Me: v_v

Falerin: As for your question I cannot answer vaugeries with infinite possible answers

Falerin: particularly if I lack all of them myself

Lkeas: haha true

Lord_Me: will the messenger come back? i miss him

Falerin: If NOVA has indeed done away with him he will not

Falerin: If in fact he is hiding as he seemed to indicate

Falerin: It is possible he will or will not

Falerin: Neither of which I can answer for you

Lkeas: hmm

Falerin: his fate something to which I am privvy

Lord_Me: well, I guess I'll have to hate nova 'til he comes back

Lord_Me: do you have any idea of what NOVA stands for?

Lkeas: is it an acronym at all?

Leo_Biaxomus: Lord_me, do not hate NOVA, we do not even know their true intention, yet.

Falerin: As has already been stated I do not know what they stand for... oh what the name stands for.... it could be Not just Old Very Ancient for all I know

Falerin: Or it may not be an acronym at all

Falerin: That Leo_Biaxomus has always been my opinion as well.. You score one point

Lord_Me: Nand of Vising Avil maybe >_>

Lkeas: oh, are we playing a game now?

Lkeas: wait...

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Falerin: Though I do recommend being vigiliant where they are concerned...

Lord_Me: I just don't like them

Falerin: How rational....

Lord_Me: there's something about the picture of the fetus...

Falerin: A fetus signifies growing life...

Lkeas: but yes, i agree... we should keep all three eyes open

Lord_Me: it could also signify that they do animal tests on unborn babies >_>

Falerin: The fetus in the picture is clearly still alive its not as if they are some kind of abortion clinic

Falerin: Now that is a stretch of even my imagination.. You score -1 points for lameness and for doing The'galin's work for him

Lkeas: yikes

Lord_Me: no fair!

Lord_Me: I don't like this game

Falerin: Thats unfortunate.. as The'galin does not let anyone choose not to play

* Falerin considers the latest changes to the seekers site

Falerin: A new profile avatar

Falerin: which... means something...

Falerin: thats very clear

Lkeas: isn't it the same head that's been popping up in other places?

Lord_Me: it's like Maxwell's avatar but..y'know... not

Falerin: A song choice.... Tim McGraw

Lord_Me: so it's Tim McGraw in his avvy? It all makes sence now!

Leo_Biaxomus: Falaerin, this is slightly old news.

Falerin: Its different from maxwells avatar in some keyways.. there are more discernable features in it...you can tell for instance for sure that its definitely a masked figure... the color has distinct color in it

Leo_Biaxomus: Arrgghh! Curse my evil hands and their misspellings!

Lkeas: it's news, but it's still in need of explanation

Falerin: Where maxwells is much more shadowy

Falerin: The other changes are pretty apparent two the light is eroding the image....

Lord_Me: Maxwell's is like a sillouhette

Falerin: and glaring on its face

Lkeas: true

Lkeas: a destructive light force?

Lkeas: hmm

Lord_Me: those thingies!

Lord_Me: that start with b... it think

Lkeas: lol

Lkeas: how eloquent

Lkeas: brilhado

Lord_Me: yeah

Leo_Biaxomus: Maybe, It is the representation of the evil and good in Hope?

Falerin: No I do not think it represnts the Brilhado

Lkeas: what is evil? what is good? what is Hope?

Lord_Me: maybe Lorithia is eaten The'galin

Falerin: As the original image Maxwell's shilloute .... seems sinister

Falerin: So if that image is designed to be sinister

Falerin: and its eroding that image

Leo_Biaxomus: Evil and good cannot be defined, as, everyone has diffrent opinion on the matter.

Lkeas: hmm... so the light is attempting to erode a sinister representation?

Lkeas: does that make it "good" then?

Lord_Me: not really, Leo, it's simple. Lorithia = good, The'galin = bad

Falerin: In either case.. there is one thing totally unseen in both images.... tho

Falerin: Even with the increased detail and features to the collar and hood on the image on Seeker's site

Lkeas: what is that?

Falerin: And even with light glaring right there to reveal it

Lkeas: no face?

Falerin: No face

Lkeas: faceless.

Lord_Me: the eyes?

Leo_Biaxomus: Lord_me, that isn't true, Lorithia is creation, and The'Galin is uncreation. Creation brings evil and good, while uncreation end everything. And, yes I know uncreation Isn't a real word.

Lord_Me: it has eyes in Nova's myspace

Falerin: Neither image has any facial details whatsoever

Leo_Biaxomus: ends*

Falerin: Uncreation is a real word

Leo_Biaxomus: It is?

Leo_Biaxomus: Not according to my dictionary.

Falerin: With in the context of Lore it most certainly is because it is a force... within the world

Falerin: Your dictionary defines terms unique to LORE then does it?

Leo_Biaxomus: No, it does not.

Falerin: Did I write it I wonder...

Falerin: Ah

Lord_Me: yeah, but i could make up a wor'd of my oen, and call elephants glacks. Would that make glack a word?

Falerin: Good I was going to say I do not recall writin such a thing

Falerin: Yes....

Lkeas: glack would be a word to you

Lord_Me: really?

Falerin: Reference Jaberwocky

Falerin: It would not make it a proper word in your language however

Lord_Me: Jabberwocky sits in the old gum tree...

Lkeas: not quite

Lkeas: lol

Falerin: Reference the word Ain't

Lkeas: heh. try "D'oh!" while you're at it too

Falerin: Which is improper because it actually defies rules of words/contractions

Falerin: D'oh is not a contraction as such so its fine.. its an "Expletive"

Lord_Me: what about won't? Eh?

Lkeas: i see

Lord_Me: it should be will'nt

Lord_Me: but it ain't

Falerin: The contraction of Will and not to w'ont is actually explained by gramatical rules and their bizzare exceptions with semantics to tiresome to follow

Falerin: but it at least has the same rules with just a letter substitution

Lkeas: fun

Falerin: Aint on the other hand... does not use any identifiable root and WORSE substitues for a contraction that already exists

Falerin: Isn't

Lkeas: true - how did we get on this again?

Falerin: Which is just as easy to use

Lkeas: ah yes. uncreation

Falerin: Also worse it substitutes for MULTIPLE things

Falerin: providing a pseudo contraction for Amn't

Falerin: which is not used in the english language really

Lkeas: that's true, huh. it's always "i'm not"

Lkeas: versus "you aren't"

Leo_Biaxomus: Why are we disccusing grammar, and the english language?

Lkeas: because you said uncreation wasn't a word

Lkeas: if you recall

Lord_Me: i wanna talk about nova

Falerin: because sir you said uncreation was not a word

Falerin: And then when I told you it was because it was defined in a specific vocabulary

Leo_Biaxomus: I know why it started, but not why we are still disccusing it.

Falerin: Lord_Me tried to argue that it would still not be a word

Lkeas: alright alright, so why does NOVA have a picture of a faceless at all... and why does The Seeker show a faceless getting eroded by light? presumably a blue light?

Falerin: And thats of course nonsensical. Words enter language all the time when they need to be provided to describe somehting new

Falerin: The light does not seem colored to me

Falerin: Its just glare

Lkeas: then what is the blue for?

Falerin: could be white light

Falerin: Color of the clothing itself?

Lkeas: a blue faceless?

Falerin: I mean its clear it is clothing

Lkeas: is something going to happen to the faceless in the blue clothing?

Falerin: its not in Silloute like Maxwells

Falerin: Where we can assume nothing

Falerin: If its a specific faceless in blue clothing it would be an Avatar

Lord_Me: there's a full verson of Maxwell's with eyes in Nova myspace

Falerin: though I tend to think it does not represent a specific being at all

Lkeas: no? then why blue at all? why not just erode the unspecific one in maxwell's image?

Leo_Biaxomus: It could represent us.

Falerin: Because thats featureless

Falerin: It does not look like a being

Falerin: it looks like a sillouette as you said

Lkeas: my monitor must be miscalibrated... the blue image does not look much clearer

Lkeas: just a head with sunglasses

Lord_Me: but the EYES

Lkeas: are they eyes? or reflections?

Lord_Me: (Link: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=115262511&MyToken=c3ad7d1a-2cc1-4ffd-a4f2-9633d303674d)http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=115262511&MyToken=c3ad7d1a-2cc1-4ffd-a4f2-9633d303674d

Lord_Me: there

Falerin:: That head with the eyes does NOT look like the same picture as Maxwells forum icons or the figure to me

Falerin: That is a different image

Lord_Me: wait a sec

Falerin: The shape is not even right

Falerin: The shape of maxwell's forum head is hooded

Falerin: same with Seekers

Falerin: that one is not

Falerin: its clearly wearing glasses

Lkeas: ...my goodness, must i bust out the photoshop to compare?

Falerin: Evidentally

Falerin: But the differences are GLARING to me

Falerin: and I looked just casually

Lkeas: perhaps you see more than we do

Lord_Me: yeah, Falerin's right

Lord_Me: it's ear's are too big =/

Lord_Me: that's all i picked up

Falerin: it has no hood

Falerin: it is a bald man with glasses on

Falerin: it has no hood

Falerin: at all

Lkeas: NOVA's?

Falerin: aye

Lord_Me: the other one has a hood on?

Lord_Me: geez

* Leo_Biaxomus thinks he musts be blind, he sees no glasses, only a blue and black orb.

Lord_Me: really?

Falerin: Though it does look .. hmm now isn't that peculiar

Lkeas: ?

Falerin: An optical illusion....

Falerin: how clever

Lord_Me: eh?

Lord_Me: where?

Falerin: And that explains it...

Lord_Me: i see no illusion >_>

Lkeas: explains what??

Lkeas: ok, here are the three together. i see very little difference.

Lkeas: (Link:

Lord_Me: Falerin's building up tension and i don't like it

Falerin: And the reason for that is quite apparent...

Falerin: Which image did you see first?

Lord_Me: Maxwell's

Lkeas: yeah

Leo_Biaxomus: Intruiging, I see an illusion, but not what this illsuion is.

Falerin: I too saw Maxwells first

Falerin: adn then the seekers second

Falerin: I only saw this third image today

Lord_Me: i saw maxwell's, nova's then seeker's

Falerin: When I saw the two of them....I assumed that seekers and maxwells pictures were totally complete

Falerin: I never though they were cropped images

Lord_Me: cropped?

Lkeas: oh?

Lkeas: what did you believe the glasses to be?

Lord_Me: er... what's a cropped image?

Lkeas: it means it's cut up

Lkeas: not the entirety

Lord_Me: oh, i knew that

Falerin: I took the bottom of the image to be not glasses frames or something but an elaborate collar of the sort you might see on some uniforms or like a stormtrooper or something drakel like

Falerin: And the head was facing profile with no face apparent beneath a hood

Lkeas: facing left?

Falerin: The face would be ABOVE where the eyes appear to be in the other image

Lord_Me: i thought it was sarth vader when i first saw it

Falerin: Since I saw that.... I took nothing of it

Lkeas: an interesting imagination you have, Falerin

Falerin: and when the colored picture made it appear as the Seekers was wearing blue

Falerin: They definitely did not appear as glasses

Falerin: Absolutely appearing to confirm it was some type of clothing

Lkeas: but has your opinion changed?

Leo_Biaxomus: Oddly, it looks like the back of someone's head.

Falerin: Therefore when I saw the new image....

Lkeas: eyes in the back of the head, eh leo?

Lord_Me: you know, the ears ARE bigger on the complete image

Falerin: But now I see that it does.... but I still do not think I was wrong to begin with

Falerin: What I think is....

Falerin: Hold on

* Lkeas looks for something to hold on to

Leo_Biaxomus: And now Falerin will assasinated, great.

Lkeas: yeah right

Falerin:

Lkeas: he's probably got some kind of deal going on with the reaper

Leo_Biaxomus: It's happened to everyone who hs helped us before.

Falerin: Wgat do you see in that image

Lkeas: that's a famous image

Falerin: Yes

Falerin: It is

Falerin: For a reason

Falerin: What is in there

Lkeas: the young woman, or the old woman

Lord_Me: an old lady and a young lady

Falerin: But heavens it cannot be both

Lord_Me: the young lady looks realler

Falerin: it has to be one person

Lkeas: but in reality it is neither, since it's really a drawing

Falerin: I have seen old women walk exactly like that with their chin in their coat

Lord_Me: it's the young one

Lkeas: ;)

Falerin: I have never seen women wear a veil that tacky

Falerin: if the young woman is real

Falerin: So I think not

Falerin: Reality is not something that can be derived from representational media

Lkeas: exactly

Falerin: Which leads me to the point....

Falerin: These images all three of them are like that.. they are shadowy and designed to evoke different things

Falerin: Though I think it safe to say all three represent the Faceless

Lkeas: yes

Falerin: But the one on Nova's site is really crappy

Lkeas: lol

Falerin: Eyes are part of a face

Falerin: If you have eyes... you have a face

Falerin: if you have no face you have nothing

Falerin: blankness where the face should be

Falerin: not eyes floating there

Lord_Me: maybe he has his eyes closed

Lkeas: a faceless cannot have ears either?

Falerin: Which is not to say that these beings have no "Face" literally

Falerin: Generally my definition of face includes the ears

Lord_Me: messenger sez faceless have faces

Lkeas: hmm

Lkeas: that IS interesting... i thought they were the same, but NOVA's does indeed have eyes

Lkeas: (had to crank up the contrast in PS)

[01:17] Lkeas: well, regardless... why would The Seeker show a faceless getting eroded? we don't even know what the intentions of the faceless are

[01:17] *** Leo_Biaxomus is now known as Leo.

[01:17] *** Quin has signed off IRC (Ping timeout).

[01:18] Lord_Me: a foodsource is their goal, apparently

[01:18] Leo: It could symoblize a soul, as the faceless's foorsource are souls.

[01:18] Leo: foodsource*

[01:19] Lkeas: don't we all need food sources?

[01:19] Lord_Me: yeah, but they're controlled by agents

[01:19] Leo: Yes, and without them we die, and wend we die our bodys decompose/erode.

[01:20] Leo: when*

[01:20] Leo: Sorry, I'm watching Naruto, I'm still wondering why people think it's great.

[01:20] Lkeas: heh

[01:20] Lkeas: it has its ups and downs

[01:21] Lkeas: i think i shall be signing off for the night

[01:21] Leo: G'night.

[01:21] Lkeas: goodnight!