Emotions and Numbers

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[15:09] <Blaster[Lunch]> hello Maxwell

[15:09] <Sonic12040> Hey Maxwell.

[15:09] <Trenton> /sigh

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[15:10] <Maxwell> sigh?

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[15:10] <Genoclysm> Hello Maxwell.

[15:10] <Sonic12040> He's sad he gave you a cardinal-related idea.

[15:10] <TDgram> Its maxwell, if we learned anything by now. HE will never give direct solid listed answers

[15:10] <Maxwell> what on earth was that about?

[15:10] <Genoclysm> We saw your... interesting reply.

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[15:10] <TDgram> Maxwell is an Indirect answer type of fellah

[15:10] <Leo[Busy]> Greetings, Barrius.

[15:10] <Maxwell> so, happy mogloween

[15:10] <Maxwell> how is it?

[15:10] <Genoclysm> It is great.

[15:10] <LordBarrius> Awesome. ^_^

[15:10] <Maxwell> I noticed they funked up my town...

[15:11] <Genoclysm> lol

[15:11] <Maxwell> I will fix the graphic bugs asap tomorrow morning

[15:11] <Maxwell> the bag the golem not shutting up and the floating houses >>;

[15:11] <TDgram> Im happy with Mogloween.. Godzilla form *chuckle*

[15:11] <Maxwell> yeah, its good

[15:11] <Blaster[Lunch]> floating houses?

[15:11] <Maxwell> but I need to fix those small things

[15:11] * Blaster[Lunch] chuckles

[15:11] <Genoclysm> Will there be any more to it than the trick-or-treating?

[15:11] <Maxwell> no?

[15:11] <Genoclysm> I noticed you had Kabroz mentioned.

[15:11] <Maxwell> I am not sure actually

[15:12] <Maxwell> all I know is mogloween is all about candy and trick or treating

[15:12] <Genoclysm> You're not sure?

[15:12] <Maxwell> things could happen...

[15:12] <Maxwell> with a small evil yellow rat

[15:12] <Maxwell> maybe

[15:12] <Maxwell> :P

[15:12] <Genoclysm> lol

[15:12] <Genoclysm> I hope so.

[15:12] <LordBarrius> Maybe. ^_^

[15:12] <Sonic12040> Geno, I updated my questions to include your question.

[15:12] <TDgram> Sounds about right maxwell, Candy N Trick or Treating is about the Jist of it.

[15:12] <Genoclysm> Thank you.

[15:12] <Sonic12040> No problem.

[15:13] <Genoclysm> A follow up pumpkin war would be interesting.

[15:13] <Maxwell> look, im not going to really answer anything until I see you all trying to really figure out the runes

[15:13] <Maxwell> so far I have seen a few guesses and that is about it

[15:13] <Blaster[Lunch]> any more clues on the runes to give us?

[15:13] <Sonic12040> My theory involves elemental combinations

[15:13] <Genoclysm> Maxwell, how do we do more than guess at this time?

[15:13] <Maxwell> do some homework on them

[15:13] <Maxwell> look things up

[15:14] <Maxwell> dig deep

[15:14] <TDgram> As for the runes...i think most of us are pretty burnt on leads besides Sonic's Elemental combination theory

[15:14] <Genoclysm> I thought you said they were origional?

[15:14] <Maxwell> dont just ask people that know to tell you

[15:14] <Sonic12040> Might one of the runes represent the combination of light and darkness?

[15:14] <Genoclysm> Frankly, I don't have a clue on where to start looking.

[15:15] <Maxwell> you will have to look for clues, not ask me for them

[15:15] <Maxwell> they are out there

[15:15] <Genoclysm> We have found nothing yet to compare.

[15:16] <Sonic12040> Well, we know there is a plus, a minus sign, 9 numbers, a zero, symbol representations, sol, probably a representation for home

[15:16] <Sonic12040> It is possible the entire thing is the creation story of Zeta Reticuli

[15:16] <Genoclysm> A problem in another language is quite difficult when you have no means to translate and don't know how to look for a means to translate.

[15:17] <TDgram> Alright, here is a pretty open ended question, Are the runes in anyway related to eachother by elements?

[15:17] <Maxwell> no

[15:17] <TDgram> simple enough... :( back to square one for me

[15:17] <Sonic12040> The runes tell a Cor-Dem story though.

[15:17] <Maxwell> the cor dem do not see the elements the way Lore does

[15:17] <Genoclysm> At the moment I am a bit burnt out.

[15:17] <TDgram> That makes two of us now Geno

[15:17] <Sonic12040> The Cor-Dem see the steam element IIRC.

[15:18] <Genoclysm> Do they have Lords of concepts, like Caelestia?

[15:18] <Maxwell> all I can say is, this puzzle will not be easy

[15:18] <Maxwell> and once you have to use this on the test

[15:18] <Maxwell> you will be glad you did your homework

[15:19] <Genoclysm> I know that.

[15:19] <Maxwell> many people will fail

[15:19] <TDgram> Homework...meh..

[15:19] <Genoclysm> I just don't understand how to go about doing the homework.

[15:19] <Blaster[Lunch]> are all the required runes present/found ?

[15:19] <Maxwell> I would research numbers

[15:19] <Maxwell> and old languages

[15:19] <Maxwell> yes they are

[15:19] <Genoclysm> Outside of Lore, correct?

[15:19] <Maxwell> but if you mix them together

[15:20] <Maxwell> they might represent something else

[15:20] <TDgram> Technically many will fail..but many will succeed... In a way, people here are like a hive mind...When one or two figure out the answer...all will know

[15:20] <Genoclysm> What we should research is outside of Lore, correct?

[15:21] <Maxwell> yes

[15:21] <Genoclysm> That is a start.

[15:21] <TDgram> Hmm, Im guessing Answers can be found in real world history or mythology?

[15:21] <Maxwell> you would guess right

[15:21] <Genoclysm> Modeled after, but not copied, correct?

[15:22] <Maxwell> you will have to see for yourself

[15:22] <Genoclysm> hm...

[15:22] <TDgram> Thats alot of history/myth to search.. So...Where do you want to start Geno?

[15:22] <Sonic12040> I'm checking out Lost mythology on numbers right now.

[15:22] <Genoclysm> They started with Zeta, Earth, and Sol.

[15:23] <Genoclysm> Numbers first, then look up related astronomy.

[15:23] <Genoclysm> Just my guess.

[15:23] <TDgram> I'll start looking into myth related and ect symbols

[15:23] <TDgram> <,<

[15:23] <TDgram> This is gonna be awhile

[15:23] <TDgram> lol

[15:23] <TDgram> >,>

[15:23] <Genoclysm> I'm afraid that being in the fall, school will get in the way for me. v.v

[15:24] <TDgram> ..

[15:24] <Sonic12040> It might be that the numbers represent the orbital pattern of Zeta Reticuli, and when Lore will reconnect with the rest of the universe.

[15:24] <TDgram> Are there any general hints you can give us maxwell to direct us in our search?

[15:25] <Maxwell> they are aliens :P

[15:25] <TDgram> They meaning Cor demi' or they meaning the symbols point to astrological?

[15:25] <Maxwell> and are being used for their understanding of numbers and technology

[15:26] <Maxwell> something the faceless do not understand, at all

[15:26] <Genoclysm> I don't really understand what you are reffering to Maxwell.

[15:26] <Maxwell> the facless only understand emotion

[15:26] <Genoclysm> What do you mean are aliens?

[15:26] <Maxwell> faceless*

[15:26] <Maxwell> the cor dem are aliens...

[15:26] <Genoclysm> ah

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[15:27] <Maxwell> "based" on "real" aliens

[15:27] <Sonic12040> It might represent time then.

[15:27] <Genoclysm> Just making sure. So that is how they serve the Faceless.

[15:28] <Genoclysm> Ancient languages... can these languages we should research be fictitious?

[15:28] <Maxwell> it is up to you what you research

[15:28] <Maxwell> it should all help in some way

[15:29] <Sonic12040> Might as well check out UFOlogy then.

[15:29] <Genoclysm> I noticed Falerin used one of Tolkein's words in The Path to Greatness. lol

[15:29] <Genoclysm> sharku IIRC

[15:30] <Maxwell> do you want a large hint?

[15:30] <Maxwell> the last one I will give

[15:30] <Sonic12040> Sure.

[15:30] <Maxwell> 7 5 5 is important to the Cor Dem too

[15:30] <Genoclysm> ...

[15:30] <Genoclysm> How is that a hint?

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[15:30] <Maxwell> that is actually a pretty big one

[15:30] <Genoclysm> We already guessed that much.

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[15:31] <Genoclysm> What do you mean by "too"?

[15:31] <Sonic12040> Then we are missing something big.

[15:31] <Sonic12040> *runs through logs*

[15:31] <Maxwell> 755 is the faceless number of trinity

[15:31] <TDgram> So They are Used by the Cor dem as markers for the numbers and elements...But based on real world history

[15:32] <Genoclysm> We've been over this...

[15:32] <Genoclysm> Not elements.

[15:32] <TDgram> ..

[15:32] <Maxwell> if you are gathering this, the faceless do not use numbers

[15:32] <TDgram> ...

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[15:32] <Maxwell> but 755 is made by the faceless

[15:32] <Maxwell> but also the cor dem use it

[15:32] <TDgram> right..faceless= dont use Cor demi= does

[15:32] <Maxwell> so why would a race...

[15:32] <Genoclysm> How does one that does not use numbers make a number?

[15:32] <Maxwell> that does not use numbers

[15:33] <Maxwell> look at a set of numbers

[15:33] <Maxwell> as something holy

[15:33] <Maxwell> perhaps that is all they know?

[15:33] <TDgram> As a relic..

[15:33] <TDgram> hmm

[15:33] <Maxwell> the faceless only understand emotion

[15:33] <Maxwell> the cor dem only understand the science

[15:33] <Maxwell> but yet both look to this number

[15:34] <Genoclysm> 755 means an emotion understood my science?

[15:34] <Maxwell> as something of great importance

[15:34] <Genoclysm> Maxwell, there are many trinities... I don't know which ones to even consider.

[15:35] <Maxwell> there is one great trinity that binds all worlds

[15:35] <Maxwell> many races know it

[15:35] <Maxwell> the network knows it

[15:35] <TDgram> maxwell was that a typo or did you refer to the runes as a single number..

[15:35] <Maxwell> NOVA, knows it

[15:35] <Genoclysm> Universal, even through different religiouns?

[15:35] <Genoclysm> gah

[15:35] <Genoclysm> religions*

[15:36] <Sonic12040> feelings?

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[15:36] <Genoclysm> Science. Feelings in general has no connection.

[15:36] <Maxwell> many of you think the yin yang theory is correct

[15:36] <Genoclysm> But that is two I thought?

[15:37] <Maxwell> maybe you should read about the yin yang a bit more, there is never two sides of a story

[15:37] <Genoclysm> Yours, Mine, and the Truth.

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[15:37] <TDgram> Two sides of the story are always the same story...just different point of views

[15:37] <Maxwell> indeed they are

[15:38] <Genoclysm> All three sides are the same.

[15:38] <Genoclysm> One is just untainted.

[15:38] <Maxwell> that is why there is never a true enemy in war

[15:38] <Maxwell> just two sides

[15:38] <Genoclysm> But is The'Galin... he is not an "enemy" is he?

[15:38] <Maxwell> it is something that must be

[15:38] <Maxwell> for if there was no end there would be no start

[15:39] <TDgram> To every story there is 3 sides to a story...2 point of views and 1 singular unbiased witness

[15:39] <TDgram> Or 1 "untainted" if you will

[15:39] <Maxwell> the cor dem see the trinity as nature's balance on all worlds

[15:40] <Genoclysm> Has balance left Lore?

[15:40] <Maxwell> and use these three symbols of nature

[15:40] <Maxwell> as runes

[15:41] <TDgram> 3 symbols of nature..

[15:41] <TDgram> Um...Peace , Chaos and Neutrality?

[15:41] <Genoclysm> Birth, Death...

[15:41] <Maxwell> + - 0

[15:41] <TDgram> Birth , life , Death?

[15:41] * Genoclysm smacks his forehead... hard.

[15:42] <Genoclysm> + - 0 are symbols of nature?

[15:42] <Sonic12040> Do they represent time?

[15:42] <Maxwell> indeed

[15:42] <Maxwell> all things have to bind by the rules of the trinity

[15:42] <TDgram> 3 stages of time? PAst Present Future?

[15:42] <Maxwell> all things must end all things must be born and all things must live

[15:43] <Maxwell> all things must stay in balance, and be forever kept in the trinity

[15:43] <Genoclysm> Birth +, Death -, ? 0

[15:43] <Blaster[Lunch]> 0 is live

[15:43] <TDgram> Birth+ Death- Life 0

[15:43] <Genoclysm> How would 0 be life?

[15:44] <Maxwell> are you starting to understand why the creator and devourer must be?

[15:44] <TDgram> Life is being in existance between Birth and Death

[15:44] <Sonic12040> They allow the worlds to stay in balance.

[15:44] <Maxwell> yes, they do

[15:44] <Maxwell> but what keeps them in balance in the first place?

[15:44] <Sonic12040> But what if both were removed?

[15:44] <Genoclysm> 0 does not exist, except in the absense of existance I thought?

[15:44] <Maxwell> what is to stop the devourer from destorying all

[15:44] <Maxwell> what is to stop the creator from creating too much?

[15:45] <Genoclysm> End

[15:45] <TDgram> Almost as Me and Sonic said in reference to Sol There is Light... In Absence of Light There Is Dark.....in Absence of both..there is nothing

[15:45] <Maxwell> something needs a limit, something needs rules

[15:45] <Sonic12040> Matter.

[15:45] <Sonic12040> Is there a limit of matter?

[15:45] <Genoclysm> It all hinges on zero.

[15:46] <Genoclysm> Zero is absense... I can't think of anything more that it can be.

[15:46] <Maxwell> yes, the cor dem tell a story with the runes they use as a language

[15:47] <Maxwell> if you want to understand their language, you should learn what each rune means

[15:47] <Maxwell> and I warn you they do not count like us

[15:47] <Maxwell> there is no runes for 1-9

[15:47] <Genoclysm> Is zero absense to them?

[15:47] <Maxwell> it is more of a balance

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[15:47] <Maxwell> all things need 0

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[15:48] <Lex> tralin?

[15:48] <Lex> you mean falerin??

[15:48] <TDgram> Hmm They dont count like us...So that excludes the basis of roman numerals

[15:48] <Lex> ...

[15:48] <Genoclysm> Who are you talking to Lex?

[15:48] <Maxwell> does it?

[15:48] <Lex> tralin...

[15:48] <Sonic12040> The entire story might be about keeping the balance.

[15:48] <Lex> ?

[15:48] <Maxwell> I just said there is no rune for 1-9 :P

[15:48] <Lex> nvm

[15:48] <TDgram> Well Roman numerals base number is 1 or I

[15:48] <Lex> is falerin one of the creators of AQ?

[15:48] <Maxwell> ....

[15:48] <Genoclysm> ...

[15:49] <Maxwell> no

[15:49] <Genoclysm> I highly doubt that.

[15:49] <Lex> ha

[15:49] <Genoclysm> he beat me to it.

[15:49] <Lex> told you ralfy

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[15:49] <Maxwell> but he writes many of the stories for AE

[15:49] <Leo[Busy]> No, Falerin isn't a creator of AQ, he joined the staff in 2002 though.

[15:49] <Maxwell> ... wow that was random and stupid

[15:49] <Sonic12040> haha

[15:49] <TDgram> ..

[15:49] <Genoclysm> lol

[15:49] <TDgram> Back to the matter at hand..

[15:49] <Ralfy> [22:50:18] <Lex> told you ralfy <--- BLAH!

[15:50] * Ralfy was kicked by Maxwell (Maxwell�)

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[15:50] <Ralfy> :O

[15:50] <Genoclysm> Ralfy, he is Caelestia's god of Chaotic Evil.

[15:50] <Ralfy> nova is maxwell o.O

[15:51] <Genoclysm> That still leaves one detail that vexe_s [[See note at bottom of page]] me...

[15:51] <Maxwell> how am I a cult, I am just one man :P

[15:51] <Ralfy> ...

[15:51] <Ralfy> why was i kicked Maxwell?

[15:51] <Ralfy> i dont understand why :/

[15:51] <Maxwell> finger slipped

[15:51] <Ralfy> oh :o

[15:51] <Ralfy> >_>

[15:51] <Genoclysm> suuuure...

[15:52] <Genoclysm> I need to remember that excuse.

[15:52] <Maxwell> if that does not work

[15:52] <Maxwell> say butter fingers

[15:52] <Maxwell> or the devil made me do it

[15:52] <Genoclysm> lol

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[15:52] <Sonic12040> http://www.vghelpers.com/runes/clawsta3%20from%20the%20messenger's%20site.jpg

[15:52] <Genoclysm> Even if it is another op?

[15:52] <Sonic12040> Might that be VII?

[15:54] <Genoclysm> I don't think he's going to answer.

[15:55] <TDgram> <,<

[15:55] <Maxwell> it is wrong

[15:55] <Genoclysm> nvm

[15:55] <TDgram> Got really quiet there for a minute

[15:55] <Genoclysm> Origional: Makkisar has a master...or more accurately Truth does...

[15:56] <Genoclysm> You aren't by any chance going to tell us his master, are you?

[15:56] <Sonic12040> Is there a rune for 700?

[15:56] <Genoclysm> Origional: Falerin*

[15:56] <Maxwell> Truth acts under the orders of none

[15:56] <Sonic12040> If there is I might have a potential pattern.

[15:56] <Genoclysm> That is strange Maxwell.

[15:56] <Maxwell> a rune for 700?

[15:56] <Sonic12040> yes

[15:57] <Maxwell> I am sure you can try to make a 700

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[15:57] <Maxwell> but there is no one rune for it

[15:57] <Genoclysm> Falerin said the opposite as far as I can see. Can you explain his post?

[15:57] <Sonic12040> My theory as of this moment that the wavy runes are the numbers.

[15:57] <Maxwell> all faceless have a master, in theory

[15:58] <Maxwell> Truth does not follow the master

[15:58] <Genoclysm> All have a single master?

[15:58] <Genoclysm> or all have A master?

[15:58] <Sonic12040> The number of lines is the number, then the number of groups of lines represents the number of zeros

[15:58] <Maxwell> well im going to get to sleep

[15:58] <Genoclysm> Doubt it Sonic.

[15:58] <Genoclysm> Good night.

[15:58] <Blaster[Lunch]> night

[15:59] <Genoclysm> And thank you.

[15:59] <Maxwell> good luck, I think I gave enough clues to help you for now

[15:59] <Leo[Busy]> Farewell.

[15:59] <Sonic12040> Goodnight.

[15:59] <Maxwell> have fun with mogloween

[15:59] <Sonic12040> Thanks.

[15:59] <Maxwell> and I hope you like the pumpkin guy I made lol

[15:59] <Sonic12040> I'm gonna go watch Boy Meets World. Be back in a bit.

[15:59] <Sonic12040> >_>

[15:59] <Maxwell> expect a pumpkin war soon :P

[15:59] <Genoclysm> Yay!

[15:59] <Blaster[Lunch]> realy ?

[15:59] <Maxwell> he is very very angry

[15:59] <Maxwell> does not show it well though

[15:59] <Genoclysm> I thought Hollow did the golom though...

[15:59] <Maxwell> cant show emotion

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[15:59] <Maxwell> he did

[16:00] <Maxwell> he did the golem

[16:00] <Genoclysm> There are two?

[16:00] <Maxwell> I am talking about Jack ><;

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[23:01] Blaster[Lunch]: jack

[23:01] Genoclysm: oh

[23:01] Blaster[Lunch]: hello lkeas

[23:01] * Lkeas waves

[23:01] Genoclysm: I thought he was old.

[23:01] Maxwell: nope..

[23:01] Lkeas: what's goin on?

[23:01] Maxwell: he was never there before

[23:01] Genoclysm: This is my first Mogloween.

[23:01] Blaster[Lunch]: is jack by any chance taken from nightmare before christmas ?

[23:01] Maxwell: yeah

[23:02] Blaster[Lunch]: cool

[23:02] Lkeas: i would have said return to oz, but nightmare works too :)

[23:02] Genoclysm: Yes, he looks great Maxwell.

[23:02] Maxwell: he is missing something though

[23:02] Maxwell: cant put my finger on it

[23:02] Genoclysm: Serious?

[23:03] Genoclysm: Let me take another look.

[23:03] Maxwell: well im off to sleep

[23:03] Maxwell: again

[23:03] Maxwell: good luck with the runes

[23:03] Blaster[Lunch]: g-night

[23:03] Lkeas: goodnight max

[23:03] Genoclysm: Good night.

[23:03] Maxwell: if you can figure out the story of the runes

[23:03] Genoclysm: He is missing a weapon maybe...

[23:03] Maxwell: I will give you 1000 Z tokens

[23:03] Lkeas: wow

[23:03] Genoclysm: O_O

[23:03] Maxwell: beacuse I know you cant do it :P

[23:04] Lkeas: did i miss something?

[23:04] * Maxwell laughs like a mad man

[23:04] TDgram: ...

[23:04] Genoclysm: >_<

[23:04] Lkeas: lol

[23:04] Genoclysm: That is mean...

[23:04] Blaster[Lunch]: >_>

[23:04] Lkeas: actually, 1000 isn't all that much these days :D

[23:04] TDgram: I could, i just dont have the attention span to keep looking for hints on google

[23:04] Maxwell: I think you will be able to figure out the numbers though

[23:04] Maxwell: for that you will all get cookies

[23:04] Maxwell: cya

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