Family Relations

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[13:37] * Maxx looks up from his book and smiles in greeting at Lkeas.

[13:37] Gilphon: And I've been wondering the same thing, LBL

[13:37] * Iggy hugs the Lkeas

[13:38] Gilphon: ((the lkeas?))

[13:38] Maxx: Odd how I was just finishing the latest Epic entry when you should appear.

[13:38] Lkeas: oh?

[13:39] * Iggy hugs Lkeas

[13:39] Lkeas: that is rather coincidental isn't it?

[13:39] * Lkeas hugs Iggy back

[13:39] * Iggy smiles

[13:40] Maxx: The final exchange is rather alarming.

[13:40] Lkeas: indeed.

[13:40] Iggy: another epic happened?

[13:40] Lkeas: you mean Diviara's words?

[13:40] Gilphon: As I said, we may have been tricked in a big way

[13:40] Maxx: Aye.

[13:40] * Lkeas frowns.

[13:40] Gilphon: if he had a bet with Ryuusei...

[13:40] Lkeas: I still cannot forget The Traveller's, though...

[13:41] Lkeas: it had to do with the nature of the burning feathers falling from the ceiling

[13:42] Lkeas: the ones we were watching as indicators of Diviara's condition...

[13:42] lightbringerlord: ((Why I'm sleeping when there is an epic?! I hate time zones!))

[13:42] Gilphon: I think it may have been a ploy to get rid of the traveller

[13:42] Lkeas: yes, i know that's how it seems, Gilphon, and The Traveller did indeed sacrifice himself for Diviara's sake

[13:42] Maxx: I'm going to "Down Burning" now.

[13:42] Lkeas: but listen to this:

[13:42] Lkeas: * TheTraveller This symbol... the feathers are made of light...

* TheTraveller For them to appear... the Brilhado has to have been accepted by the lord of light

[13:43] lightbringerlord: So, he'd get better now?

[13:43] * Lkeas sighs

[13:44] Gilphon: which either Diviara has been acceted by the light lord

[13:44] Gilphon: or Gilitra is dying

[13:44] * ZLOK stretches.

[13:44] Lkeas: well, considering The Traveller had just been speaking with Giliara recently and he seemed in good condition, I'm not sure the latter would be feasible

[13:44] Gilphon: ((I think I spelled that wrong :p))

[13:44] Lkeas: several of the seekers also caught a glimpse of him

[13:44] Gilphon: true

[13:45] * lightbringerlord starts to read the last epic

[13:45] Gilphon: but the former is also unlikely

[13:45] Maxx: There's also a statement of being "accepted by proxy" in that log, Lkeas.

[13:46] Lkeas: indeed. meaning whoever it is, they did not attempt to enter the temple of light in order to be accepted

[13:46] Lkeas: whereas we know Giliara did

[13:46] *** Daniel|Away is now known as Daniel.

[13:46] Maxx: Didn't Diviara mention in the epic that he has one brother.

[13:46] Maxx: *?

[13:46] Lkeas: yes, Giliara.

[13:46] Lkeas: they are brothers

[13:47] Gilphon: I thought Diviara was Giliara's uncle

[13:47] Maxx: I wasn't certain if it was blatently stated, but that was the conclusion I came to.

[13:47] * Lkeas shakes her head

[13:47] Gilphon: I seem to remember reading that in the histoires

[13:47] Lkeas: Useless began calling Diviara "uncle" after his transformation

[13:48] Gilphon: what's your point?

[13:48] Lkeas: i'm just saying that's probably where you heard "uncle" spoken before

[13:49] Gilphon: actually, I seem to remember The'Galin calling Giliara Diviara's nephew

[13:49] Gilphon: in manifestion, I belive

[13:50] Lkeas: hmm...

[13:50] Zeltan: Could be..

[13:50] Lkeas: you are correct.. that is odd.

[13:51] Maxx: Gilphon can be correct every once in a while, Lkeas. Nothing odd about that.

[13:51] Zeltan: lol

[13:51] Gilphon: I think the odd thing is that Lkeas is wrong

[13:52] Lkeas: no no, that's not what i meant...

[13:52] * Lkeas rummages through a scroll

[13:52] Zeltan: "Your Nephew is not to be spared..."

[13:52] Zeltan: Yup this is the one

[13:52] Maxx: It always amazes me though how fast she finds the debated entry.

[13:53] Lkeas: ah, here we go.

[13:53] Lkeas: it was the analogs who are brothers

[13:53] Lkeas: David Viara and Gil

[13:53] Gilphon: that is sort of odd

[13:53] * Lkeas nods

[13:53] Zeltan: ..what?!

[13:53] Gilphon: but there have been stranger things

[13:54] Maxx: For Diviara to have a nephew, he'd have to have a brother though.

[13:54] * lightbringerlord is confused

[13:54] Lkeas: or sister... but if he said he had a brother, then yes.

[13:54] Maxx: When, not necessarily; but. . .

[13:54] Zeltan: True

[13:54] Maxx: *Well

[13:54] Zeltan: Either that or it's something else

[13:55] Sojurner: The term is loosely applied.

[13:55] Zeltan: indded Sojurner

[13:55] Maxx: Hello, Sojurner.

[13:55] Sojurner: It has been established I believe that Giliara is in Fact Diviara's brother

[13:56] Lkeas: i was just going to search through the epics again to try to confirm that..

[13:56] Zeltan: Then why would The'galin call Gil Diviara's newphew?

[13:57] Maxx: Deception on the part of Diviara?

[13:57] Gilphon: odd thing to hide

[13:57] Zeltan: It is possible..

[13:57] Maxx: To remove possible leverage

[13:57] Iggy: maybe they mean it like you called old friends old as in really old friends your grampa

[13:57] Iggy: just a title

[13:58] Zeltan: What a odd title

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[13:59] Gilphon: Indeed

[14:01] Iggy: title none the less

[14:02] Gilphon: I can not imagine exactly what it would mean

[14:02] Gilphon: unless the age gap is quite large

[14:02] * Lkeas seems lost in thought

[14:02] Lkeas: Sojurner, if you're there... how much do you know about merging manifestation?

[14:03] lightbringerlord: Is it possible?

[14:03] Zeltan: Hmm?

[14:03] Lkeas: indeed it is, as Morgan and his analog arranged for such a thing

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[14:04] Sojurner: It tends to be permanent

[14:04] Sojurner: er Permanent

[14:04] * Lkeas nods

[14:04] Lkeas: ...can one learn how to do it?

[14:04] Sojurner: Often there is nothing reamaining of the individuals afterward either

[14:05] Lkeas: oh?

[14:05] Donto_M: Hello, seems I've came in during the middle of something.

[14:05] Sojurner: They blend into a new third entity with the traits of the two

[14:05] Zeltan: Ah..

[14:05] Donto_M: People fusing?

[14:05] Lkeas: ah, i see. i suppose that would be alright.. but then, i don't know what she has become.. perhaps a replacement would be better..

[14:06] Gilphon: your thinking about your analog with Ryuusei, arn't you?

[14:07] * Lkeas nods slowly. "And I don't want to just sit here waiting for him to force a recoherence."

[14:07] Maxx: So, you're contemplating giving Ryuusei access to both of your analogs, Lkeas?

[14:07] Lkeas: not at all.

[14:08] ZLOK: No, She's considering mergin them to give him access to neither.

[14:09] Lkeas: i was actually wondering if it were possible to force my analog back into THIS realm instead..

[14:09] Gilphon: that sounds rather risky

[14:09] Zeltan: Who knows what will happen?

[14:09] Maxx: I would assume if you switched places with your analog through replacement, you'd be in the same physical locality your analog is currently in.

[14:09] Maxx: i.e. in Ryuusei's grasp

[14:09] Lkeas: yes well, had i gone through the black door that would have been likely..

[14:10] Zeltan: It seems to be the case

[14:10] Lkeas: is there no way to stop it then? am i to just remain here waiting to get sucked into that prison...?

[14:10] Maxx: Plus, you'd be throwing your analog in here and who knows what state of mind she currently has.

[14:11] Gilphon: the only thing we can do is rescue her

[14:11] Lkeas: she has been in pain...

[14:11] Zeltan: That is the best way i think

[14:11] Gilphon: you can tell?

[14:12] Lkeas: i was temporarily reunited with her once...

[14:12] lightbringerlord: How so?

[14:12] * Dale returns, quietly, so as not to disturb the conversation.

[14:13] Lkeas: i'm not sure how it happened. a recoherence occured, i saw Ryuusei kill that man, and accept Dale into his service, and then he turned to face me, and there was pain... and then decoherence again.

[14:13] *** Dale has signed off IRC (Distracted: Brb, rebooting. :/).

[14:13] Gilphon: Hmm

[14:13] Zeltan: If i remebered correctly

[14:14] Gilphon: Ryuusei can't be directly causing said pain

[14:14] Maxx: Well, unfortunately I must bid you all a good day.

[14:14] Lkeas: take care, Maxx

[14:14] Zeltan: G'day Maxx

[14:14] Maxx: Have fun.

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[14:14] Fiz: http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=7627246

[14:14] Fiz: finished

[14:14] Lkeas: why do you say that, Gilphon?

[14:14] Donto_M: I'm departing, farewell

[14:14] *** Donto_M has signed off IRC (Vaporized: ).

[14:15] Gilphon: because of the time frame

[14:16] Sojurner: As for the reason that The'Galin refers to Giliara as Diviara's nephew I actually know that. As little as I do know about such politics given my itinerant nature. Diviara took to refering to Giliara as his nephew himself because 1) There is a difference in their ages 2) Diviara wished to place more distance betweeen himself and Giliara's treachery"

[14:16] Gilphon: if he was killing that man while you felt the pain, he didn't cause it

[14:16] Fiz: isee many just clicked on my link

[14:16] Zeltan: Thank you Sojurner

[14:16] Sojurner: It is relatively common for immediate family to bear the burden of their familiy members actions

[14:16] ZLOK: Are there anyone who does not have analogs?

[14:17] Lkeas: you assume, Gilphon, that Ryuusei is incapable of multitasking?

[14:17] Iggy: Link

[14:17] lightbringerlord: Daniel doesn't have one.

[14:17] Iggy: Link doesnt have an analog

[14:17] Zeltan: He has

[14:17] Iggy: Daniel has many analogs

[14:17] Lkeas: he was perfectly able to render several of us rather helpless when he manipulated David Viara during the simulation..

[14:17] Gilphon: I assume that the same being cannot be in two places at once

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[14:17] lightbringerlord: But there wasn't an exchange when he entered the black door.

[14:17] Dale: ((Someone PM me what I missed? -_-))

[14:18] Sojurner: Denying common ancestry escapes common blame

[14:18] Iggy: Link doesnt have an analog

[14:18] Iggy: welll...

[14:18] Iggy: he did

[14:18] * Zeltan cough "Liar"

[14:18] Iggy: but he killed it in ocarina of time

[14:18] Sojurner: And colocation.... is actually a relatively simple task

[14:18] *** Dale has signed off IRC (Connection reset by peer).

[14:19] Sojurner: And is decidely common among mages of any great strength

[14:19] lightbringerlord: ((Heh, 2nd rule of the 63rd path: Truthseekers, please don't try to convince people about the truth here, this is is a thread about showing the unneccessary threads about the devourer on this forum.))

[14:19] lightbringerlord: *93rd

[14:19] *** Zeltan is now known as Zel|NotHere.

[14:19] Zel|NotHere: ((That crazy thread?))

[14:19] Sojurner: And Link may claim no awareness of analogs but he is likely wrong

[14:20] lightbringerlord: ((Yeah.))

[14:20] Sojurner: Dead wrong

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[14:20] Sojurner: As analog formation is a relatively constant and fast process

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[14:20] Sojurner: Even divine beings can have analogs though it is far more common for them to NOT

[14:21] ZLOK: Why don't they?

[14:21] Kye: Well, Falerin has one

[14:21] Sojurner: Because in most cases the power of the being is such that they absorb any newly formed analog the second it forms

[14:21] Lkeas: mmm.

[14:21] Kye: or rather, the one we know

[14:21] Sojurner: Which is defintiely what The'Galin does

[14:21] ZLOK: Is it because their power is divided?

[14:22] Lkeas: what does that say about Falerin's power, though? can he not stop his own analogs from forming? or does he just not bother to absorb them when they are formed?

[14:22] Sojurner: As for Falerin he has analogs because he is relatively fast and loose when it comes to such concerns and is fairly divided in persona even within one aanalog

[14:22] PapaSmurff037: ((this is off topic but what does the seekers latest blog say?))

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[14:22] Lkeas: ah.

[14:22] Sojurner: He is in fact an exception not a rule

[14:22] Sojurner: He is in fact an exception not a rule

[14:23] Sojurner: Echo

[14:23] * Iggy flies out the window

[14:23] *** Iggy is now known as Link.

[14:23] lightbringerlord: So there is a good part/analog of him somewhere?

[14:23] * Link appears

[14:23] Kye: ((Blog?))

[14:23] lightbringerlord: Cause there was an evil ýne.

[14:23] Sojurner: The fact that Falerin in fact has a "good side" is quite apparent to any who know him

[14:24] Sojurner: I am being sent along. Good day