Good vs. Bad Analogs

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[20:09] Useless: The fact that Falerin threw me through a wall is no longer appropriate to the current timeline

[20:09] Lkeas: since his branch of reality was completely uncreated, you mean?

[20:09] Lkeas: yes, that is... concerning...

[20:09] * Damsel suddenly wishes she had a grenade thinking the irony too good to pass up.

[20:09] Useless: The fact that Diviara did indeed change my form at cost to himself, however, is still quite probably truth even if the reasoning is different.

[20:09] LordBarrius: Quite....

[20:09] Lkeas: ah, i was wondering. as you appear to still be in your advanced form

[20:10] Formerly_Somebody: Uncreated?

[20:10] Useless: Isolation is a tricky thing, I am not wholly confident that even that assessment is the truth of the matter, and so I warn you all that it remains speculation.

[20:10] Formerly_Somebody: When did this not happen?

[20:10] * Lkeas blows air impatiently through her lips and throws a few scrolls from her Archive at FS. "Do catch yourself up on the latest events."

[20:11] * Formerly_Somebody is already reading his own copy.

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[20:11] Lkeas: well, i should hope we will come to a more complete understanding of its full effects at some point...

[20:11] * Legault is sitting in his hammock reading a diary

[20:11] Legault: Time is the key to all things...

[20:12] Lkeas: after all... Falerin's analog was responsible for forming the army of our dark mirrors...

[20:12] Lkeas: the ones he set to hunt us...

[20:12] * Lkeas furrows her brow

[20:13] Legault: Heh, he made an mirror of everyone?

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[20:14] Lkeas: well, they all exist, in some reality.

[20:14] Gamer: He made a mirror of me

[20:14] Gamer: EEEEK

[20:14] Lkeas: he just... organized them.

[20:14] Damsel: Not at all. He found analogs of us from different parallels which suited his purposes.

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[20:14] Gamer: THat is never good...

[20:15] Lkeas: exactly as Damsel said... and he also said that in order to stop them, we might have to betray our nature and hunt them first...

[20:15] Useless: Perhaps, perhaps not

[20:15] Lkeas: there must be some other way... i am not the killing type.

[20:15] Gamer: That I wouldn't oppose, unless that directly served the perpuse of The'Galin

[20:15] Gamer: Directly or Indirectly

[20:15] Useless: Even if they still exist, they are most likely neither collected together and working together

[20:15] * Lkeas nods

[20:16] Damsel: One would hope so at least. But I do think you are correct about the likelyhood of such occuring.

[20:17] * Formerly_Somebody looks up and snorts. "I would dearly like to ask him where he presumes to have found a living analog of myself."

[20:17] * Lkeas looks curiously at FS. "There are infinite parallel realities. Surely there are some analogs of you lying around."

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[20:18] Gamer: The Evil version of myself would certianly waste no time in elimnating me. THat much I am sure of

[20:18] * Formerly_Somebody chuckles at Lkeas. "There were. Not any longer, if I am correct."

[20:19] Formerly_Somebody: So many fatal accidents in such a short time frame...

[20:19] Formerly_Somebody: I'm surprised a paradox didn't insue.

[20:19] * Formerly_Somebody chuckles again.

[20:20] * Gamer takes out his rapier and starts to examine the blade.

[20:20] Formerly_Somebody: Then again, the accidents were only retroactively created by the realities they occured in, so it shouldn't be surprising.

[20:20] Legault: I wonder what my analog would be like... Heh.

[20:20] Gamer: I woudln't want to know what my evil analog is. For the right price...he would elimnate any of us.

[20:21] Useless: There are many analogs, most likely, Gamer

[20:21] Gamer: Aie, but what scares me.

[20:21] Gamer: Is the fact that they could get orgnized.

[20:21] Lkeas: ((lol that just reminded me of "There are many copies..."))

[20:21] * LordBarrius grins and chuckles a little. "My analog is probably a saint."

[20:22] * Lkeas shrugs

[20:22] * Gamer takes a dagger from his boot and tosses it into the air, using his Rapier he lashes out and hits it up into the air, sticking it into the cieling.

[20:22] Lkeas: well, considering how many different possibilities and branches of reality exist, i suppose there is a wide spectrum of analogs representing each of us.

[20:22] Gamer: However, at least I know what to expect if he comes out at me.

[20:23] TheTraveller: The rate of analog formation is an exponential curve. It is basically impossible to lose all of ones analogs except by total uncreation. And any individual remaining would spawn new analogs even after a partial uncreation

[20:23] * Formerly_Somebody chuckles. "Can someone who won't accept help be called a saint, Barrius?"

[20:23] Gamer: Really now...

[20:23] Lkeas: ah, hello Traveller. i hope you're not feeling too cooped up what with being unassigned...

[20:23] * Damsel considers. "Hmm, yes that would make sense. Good eve to you, Traveller."

[20:23] TheTraveller: I have an alternate assignment

[20:23] Gamer: Greetings Traveller, I am glad to have finally met you.

[20:24] * Formerly_Somebody hears the dullcet tones of the Traveller's voice, and dives back into the "Bomb Shelter".

[20:24] Lkeas: that's good to hear. being out of work is no fun.

[20:24] TheTraveller: Falerin wastes not resources

[20:24] * LordBarrius smiles. "Of course he wouldn't."

[20:24] Lkeas: may we enquire as to your task?

[20:24] TheTraveller: If he had no assignment for me he would kill me

[20:25] Lkeas: that's rather harsh of him.

[20:25] Gamer: He is evil though Lkeas.

[20:25] * LordBarrius raises an eyebrow. "Well, that is....unpleasant."

[20:25] TheTraveller: Not particularly as I am a created Avatar. Not a taken one...

[20:25] Gamer: Elminating you so you wouldn't be used by anyone else...

[20:25] * LordBarrius snorts. "That sounds like my creator's logic, Gamer."

[20:26] Lkeas: so created Avatars aren't allowed to live out their lives once their purpose is fulfilled?

[20:26] TheTraveller: And the method would be.. just recalling me....as he once did... its not really nonexistance or particularly painful. My body just ceases function and I return to my source

[20:26] Lkeas: well, that's alright i suppose.

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[20:26] TheTraveller: Created avatar are manifestation of the Gods direct power....

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[20:27] TheTraveller: Often they do not even have a discernably different identity from the god at all

[20:27] TheTraveller: Falerin is peculiar even in that

[20:27] Gamer: Does the god loose any power after they create an avatar?

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[20:27] * Lkeas smirks. "Yes, the robes versus suit."

[20:28] TheTraveller: It takes an immediate expenditure of energy and a continued expenditure of energy. But the rate of energy replenishment is generally greater then the cost

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[20:30] Gamer: Ahh

[20:30] Zeltan: Any progress?

[20:30] Lkeas: ... your task isn't to keep us from arguing amongst ourselves is it? that would be rather mundane for a manifestation.

[20:30] TheTraveller: I am not permitted to disclose my current objectives as doing so would copromise them I fear prophet

[20:30] Lkeas: ah alright.

[20:31] Useless: Hmmm, I am not wholly surprisedby such a decision.

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[20:32] Lkeas: so what do you think, Traveller? are we still in danger of being hunted by our dark analogs?

[20:32] TheTraveller: Yes.

[20:33] TheTraveller: Falerin gathered them from numerous realties and they did not neccesarily have any relationship to the worlds that were uncreated....

[20:33] * Legault disappears into the shadows. "I'll be back in a bit, duty calls."

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[20:33] * Damsel frowns, reflexively holding Useless to her more tightly.

[20:33] * LordBarrius frowns. "Well, that's not good."

[20:33] TheTraveller: And he will have had sufficent power to have isolated them from the paradoxes involved even now

[20:33] Lkeas: but since he was uncreated, wouldn't his action of gathering them have been erased? or is that not how uncreation works?

[20:33] Useless: Speaking of...is it possible for any of out own number to seek out other "good" analogs, praytell?

[20:34] TheTraveller: That would have been the case Prophet had he been totally uncreated

[20:34] TheTraveller: But he was not. He was mostly uncreated and then absorbed

[20:34] * Lkeas glances at Useless. "Well, that explains why Talo-Toecan is still in his current form, I suppose..."

[20:34] TheTraveller: Since he existed independently right up untill our Falerin absorbed him...

[20:35] TheTraveller: That version's effects remain

[20:35] Lkeas: absorbed? is there danger of the analog's essence manifesting itself in our Falerin?

[20:35] TheTraveller: Invariably uncreation is less then total based on the sheer difficultly of getting every possible alternate reality

[20:35] Useless: According to Falerin himself, that is slim...but possible given what has occured.

[20:35] TheTraveller: Particularly as alternates form even at the point of uncreation

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[20:36] TheTraveller: Consider the fact that there exists an alternate reality where permission was never given and thus Ojo did nothing

[20:36] TheTraveller: That world alone would have spawned at least one copy

[20:36] Lkeas: i see.

[20:36] * Lkeas nods, then grins slightly. "So what of Useless's query? Can we search out other analogs of ourselves as allies?"

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[20:37] TheTraveller: It's just a matter of practicality. Which is why uncreation normally works by weakening the fabric extensively. And then destroying what is left

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[20:38] TheTraveller: You could sure.. but... it would be difficult and in so far as the ones likely to aid directly would proabbly also be threatened independently within their own reality

[20:39] TheTraveller: It may not be gravely purposeful

[20:39] TheTraveller: I am being called away

[20:39] Lkeas: hmm. i suppose there is also the problem of creating paradox by hauling analogs out of their own timestream and into our own

[20:39] TheTraveller: Good even to you

[20:39] Lkeas: take care, Traveller. good luck with your tasks

[20:39] Zeltan: Farewell

[20:39] Useless: Fare thee well, Traveller

[20:40] Damsel: Or the problem, too, I'd imagine of the same nature you faced. Of having one analog be too similar and risk merging.

[20:40] Gamer: Good by Traveller.

[20:40] LordBarrius: Farewell, Traveller.

[20:40] Damsel: Be well, Traveller

[20:40] Useless: That is the question that the Ronin had kept wishing to ask, dear heart...which is why I asked it in his stead

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[20:41] * Damsel nods at Useless.

[20:41] * Lkeas nods to Damsel. "Yes, I suppose merging would defeat the purpose of searching out an analog in the first place."

[20:42] Gamer: So if we foudn our analogs, we might merge with them?

[20:42] Damsel: If they were too similar to ourselves, yes.