Fruit Baskets and Faceless
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- Lord_Me: hey, the Seeker's online
- Lkeas: he is?
- TruthSeeker: No such nick/channel.
- End of /WHOIS.
- Lkeas: oh on myspace?
- Lord_Me: yup
- Lkeas: yeah he gets on at odd times doesn't he?
- Lord_Me: yeah, i don't see why he posted the same blog twice though =/
- Lkeas: it is interesting, isn't it?
- Lkeas: what do you think it means?
- Lord_Me: i dunno, either a mistake, or there's a hidden message in one.
- Lkeas: hmm
- Leo_Biaxomus: I stand by my theory about it, we have to make a choice between two sides.
- Lkeas: ah, hello Leo
- Leo_Biaxomus: Hello, Lkeas.
- Lkeas: what if we do not choose either side? or what if the two sides are really the same?
- Leo_Biaxomus: An answer I not have.
- Lkeas: but yeah Lord, i looked at both entries pretty carefully... haven't been able to see a difference between them at all
- Lkeas: both entries the same, yet two sides... if both sides are really the same, and we are "choosing" the same thing, aren't we just all choosing one side? are we united after all?
- Lkeas: except for the fact that people believe they are on two sides
- Lord_Me: he's delted the second one
- Lord_Me: I think that explains it
- Lkeas: hmm.
- Lkeas: that could explain it, or it could only make it more confusing
- Lkeas: a lot of things about his blog are transient
- Lord_Me: "MySpace accidentally double posted this blog entry, This has caused people to believe the message has either hidden meaning is highly important or that there was some mystical diffence between the two messages.
- Lord_Me: Ironically two out of three of these is true enough so I suppose the error on myspace was fortuitous."
- Lord_Me: from the Seeker
- Lkeas: hmm
- Leo_Biaxomus: Does anyone know the meaning of the new song?
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- Lkeas: there is yet another new song?
- Lord_Me: nope, i'll look for some lyrics
- Leo_Biaxomus: Yes
- Leo_Biaxomus: Live Like You Were - Tim Mcgraw
- >Ambiance<: A bright light suddenly appears in the heavens and brings light to the channel stunning all in its brilliance
- >Ambiance<: A chorus of angels appears from within the light with lyres and harps.
- ChorusOfAngels begin to sing.....
- ChorusOfAngels: Halelujah he is coming.. Oh glorious day Aaaaaaaaaaleluia....
- Falerin has joined #755.
- Falerin turns and looks at the angels.
- Falerin: That was great you can go now.
- Falerin turns back to the channel with a smirk and asks "So anyone miss me?"
- Lord_Me: um, google search comes up with live like you were dying
- Lkeas: yeah i was just going to point out the omitted word
- Lord_Me: I missed ya
- Lord_Me: probably wasn't enough space
- Falerin: So what do you think of my new join
- Lkeas: it's quite good
- Falerin: pretty sweet huh
- Falerin: XD
- Leo_Biaxomus: unimpressive.
- Lkeas: :P
- Falerin: There is no accounting for some peoples tastes... or total lack of it Leo_Biaxomus
- You are now known as Lkeas[phone].
- Falerin turns to people that actually matter
- Falerin: So whats new
- Lord_Me: you're stories don't seem so long anymore :P
- Leo_Biaxomus: *crys* How could you say that! you big meanie! *crys*
- Lkeas[phone]: aww
- Lkeas[phone] pats Leo's head
- Falerin: Forum emotes... how sophmorish
- Falerin: Thats done as follows
- Falerin cries "How could you say that! you big meanie!" tears streaming down his face
- Lkeas[phone]: man, you're good.
- Falerin: Though of course I would not cry...nor say meanie as I graduated 3rd grade
- You are now known as Lkeas.
- Lord_Me: i would, given the chance
- Leo_Biaxomus: Loritha, I hate loremasters.
- Lkeas: lol
- Falerin: Now why is it my stories seem shorter Leo
- Falerin: You hate me.. how strongly you feel...
- Lkeas: i think that was Lord who said that
- Lord_Me: um, yeah, hi
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- Alphonse: actually short or long doesnt matter.. its the quality that counts
- Falerin scribbles note on paper "Note to Self take Leo_Biaxomus of Gift basket list for Christmas he hates you"
- Falerin: Ah so it was... Lord_Me
- AEChatter has signed off IRC (Vanished: Web IRC Disconnected).
- Lord_Me: quality schmuality
- Leo_Biaxomus: Pssh, you only send fruit, anyway.
- Lord_Me: shortness > goodness
- Falerin: Why is it they seem shorter now...? Because my join was so long... or because you actually have read them....
- Lord_Me: basically because I'm almost done
- Falerin
- Shortness > Goodness is the most idiotic thing you have said to date.....
- Lkeas gets a D- in her reading homework
- Lord_Me: actually, I have said stupider things, but for all you know, it is
- Falerin: At least most people who have such an idiotic attitude cannot be bothered to actually read anything of substance anyway
- Falerin: and hence will not survive the next purging
- Falerin turns to Lkeas ... i realize you work but.. shame shame on you
- Lkeas: :-(
- Leo_Biaxomus: I really need to read an IRC manual, and take grammar lessons.
- Falerin: the command to emote is called /me
- Alphonse: but Lkeas is not really a human =) she is a vixen ^^ so getting a D is like an A for human =p
- Lkeas: /you?
- Falerin: it is formatted /me <what you do>
- Lord_Me: LORD Me?
- Lkeas: wow, i'm a vixen
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- Alphonse: vixen = female fox :p~~
- LionelTwain has joined #755.
- LionelTwain has left #755.
- Leo_Biaxomus: I know, Falarin. I'm not a complete idiot.
- Lkeas: ROFL
- Lord_Me: that guy's indecisive
- Lkeas: lionel twain?
- Falerin: It also means a sedcutress
- Falerin turns to Leo_Biaxomus "Really... could have fooled me"
- Leo_Biaxomus: ..Then again, i just spelled Falerin, "Falarin".
- Falerin: Precisely
- Lkeas: man you guys are funny at night
- Lkeas: Murder By Death was a hilarious movie
- Falerin: It was indeed
- Lord_Me: yeah, I've never seen Falerin so full of comebacks
- Leo_Biaxomus Throws keyboard out the window, wait, how am I supposed to communicate, then?
- Lkeas: LOL
- Falerin: LionelTwain is Lionel@nexus.novawillsaveyou.org * Mr. Lionel Twain
- Lkeas: erm
- Lord_Me: TWAIN!
- Lord_Me: he's related to Matthew Twain, you know >_>
- Lkeas: no doubt :P
- Leo_Biaxomus: So, thats why he sounded familar.
- Falerin: Truman Capote played him in the movie
- Lkeas: he was quite good
- Falerin: his only "Acting" role.. he should have done more he was almost as good an actor as a writer
- Lkeas: yeah
- Lord_Me just nods, looking intelligable
- Lkeas: you should watch the movie, Lord_Me, it's really funny
- Lkeas: although the ending could have been better
- Lkeas: a fault with most comedies :-/
- Falerin: As it happens LionelTwain appears to be a bot.. who runs an IRC version of the game Clue/Cluedo in the channel #cluedo
- Lord_Me: but he's a twain, so i don't like him
- Lkeas: eh. too many Twains around here
- Lkeas kicks a few Twains out
- Falerin: How intelligent....
- Falerin: Dislike Samuel Longhorne Clemens too then do we?
- Lord_Me refrain from join #cluedo >_>;
- Lord_Me: who?
- Lkeas: no, i said Twains.
- Lkeas: i am aware Mark Twain was a pen name
- Falerin: The author wrote all of his Literature under the name Twain
- Falerin: It is what he was effectively known as....
- Falerin: Largely this is because he was a pretty political man and well known in social circles
- Lkeas: so he wanted to hide his fame?
- Falerin: Possibly or possibly he was afraid his politics would affect the sale of his writing
- Lkeas: i see
- Falerin: Or would effect peoples opinions about other unrealted matters
- Falerin: I can relate to that sentiment myself at times
- Lkeas: i imagine you could
- Falerin: People do like to combine irrelevant things together
- Lkeas: :-/ we can't help if it's near impossible to tell the relevant things from the irrelevant
- Leo_Biaxomus is thinking, yes I can think. Anyway, Leo_Biaxomus is thinking why we aren't disccusing Truth, and Truth related things.
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- Leo_Biaxomus is thinking, yes I can think. Anyway, Leo_Biaxomus is thinking why we aren't disccusing Truth, and Truth related things.
- Lord_Me884: >_>
- Lord_Me884: PING!
- Lord_Me has signed off IRC (Ping timeout).
- Lord_Me884: ^_^
- Lord_Me884 is now known as Lord_Me.
- Falerin: Apparently we are...
- Falerin: As Matthew Twain is the founder of NOVA
- Lkeas: right
- Lord_Me: don't forget Robert Twain
- Leo_Biaxomus: True, but we were starting to go off topic.
- Lord_Me: and isn't Lisa Smith that family too?
- Falerin: I do not know their family tree... I am not privy to it... I do not know if Daniel married in or Lisa did
- Falerin: one did anyway
- Lkeas: if we must draw connections, then NOVA was apparently involved in the sudden "illness" of the messenger and perhaps the sudden disappearance of Truth
- Falerin: As for that I already gave a lecture on people trying to forbid off topic discussion here
- Lord_Me: Lisa would've, coz she's a smith
- Falerin: I am against it
- Falerin: Off topic discussion serves several highly valuable purposes..... and should be embraced
- Lkeas: but again... that is making several assumptions
- Leo_Biaxomus: I don't mind people going off topic, but you do know alot more then us, and I want you to enlighten us.
- Lkeas: what would you like to ask him Leo?
- Lord_Me: assumptions make the world go 'round
- Falerin: Why should I enlighten you sir... You hate me...
- Lkeas: hmm. is hate a relative word? ;)
- Lord_Me: can you enlighten me? I'm open to long stories, y'know >_>
- Lkeas: ugh. no long stories tonight, i'm gonna go to sleep in a while
- Lord_Me: i hate sleep
- Lord_Me: i wish i were undead
- Leo_Biaxomus panics, grabs a pie, throws it in Falerin's face, and runs away.
- Lkeas: ah, see, it IS a relative word :)
- Lkeas: hmm. Leo is fond of pie
- Falerin: You also assume that I include only fruit in my gift baskets.... While some wonderful otherworldy fruits may make an apperance. Ambrosia from Olympus is always popular. I do tend to be far more selective in my gifts. Nothing I do, especially gift giving, is done without thinking it quite thoroughly out thank you.
- Leo_Biaxomus: No, I am not. People on the forums have started to brainwash me.
- Falerin disintegrates the pie midflight with a flict of his small finger
- Falerin: Puhlesse
- Lkeas: heh
- Leo_Biaxomus: Well, sorry for jumping to conclussion, Falerin.
- Lord_Me: why is Seeker's birthday 99 on thehomepage of his myspace, but 100 on his blogs?
- Falerin: But you of course will never know that... for while I might forgive people for "hating" me... once of the Holiday List always off
- Lkeas: lol
- Falerin: That is peculiar and I have noted that too
- Falerin: Its always hopping between 99 and 100
- Lord_Me: is it his birthday maybe?
- Falerin: Which seems to be a mockery of the organization NOVA setting their age at 100
- Falerin: When they clearly state in literature they are much younger
- Falerin: Of course I am somewhat alarmed that the orginzation as a whole does not want Children....
- Falerin: Perhaps they are some of those Zero population growth nutjobs
- Lkeas: heh. well, earth is getting rather crowded
- Lord_Me: isn't that what the devourer wants?
- Falerin: Hardly.....
- Leo_Biaxomus starts acting like a good little boy, and sucks up to Mr. Falaerin.
- Lkeas: i thought you didn't like the fruit Leo
- KM|zzzz is now known as Quin.
- Leo_Biaxomus: I don't, but I am not fond of being left out.
- Falerin: As a person who has a degree in biology familiar with population ecology and economics I can assure you that the earth can sustain a much higher population then those people seem to believe
- Lkeas: yes, but that would require a lot more international cooperation
- Lkeas: and a substantial overhaul of economic and social systems
- Falerin: The united states throws away or destroys more crops/food each year then it would take to feed all of the starving countries of the world
- Falerin: twice over
- Falerin: In some cases they actually give farmers incentives to destroy....
- Lkeas: yes, i've heard of such stupidities
- Falerin: Because an excess of product in local market would drive inflantion wild
- Lkeas: it's ridiculous
- Falerin: And because otherwise they would loose their livelihoods to market price plummeting
- Leo_Biaxomus is now known as Leo|Remaining_Quiet.
- Falerin: Why they do not take those exact same incentives and buy excess product and ship it overseas
- Falerin: one wonders
- Falerin turns to Leo
- Lkeas: ok well, if Leo's gonna stay shut up, i'll bring up his question again - what else do we need to know about Truth and Truth-related stuff?
- Falerin: As for you if its one thing I detest more fully then a person who apparently bears me hostility through no fault of my own it is someone who is what the modern people term hypocrisy and/or being twofaced. Brown nosing sycophantry will get you nothing except perhaps an extra hot immolation on your funeral pyre
- Lkeas: nice
- Falerin: I abhor a suck up
- Lkeas: sorry
- Falerin: If I am to be admired I prefer it be honest... and if not then being detested is fine so long as I have earned it
- Falerin: Which if Leo keeps up his current tact will be quite soon
- Falerin: and that was not to you Lkeas
- Lord_Me has signed off IRC (NickServ (GHOST command used by Lord_Me821)).
- Falerin: I do accept compliments honestly given
- Leo|Remaining_Quiet thinks Falaerin is a pain, but repects his oppinion.
- Leo|Remaining_Quiet is now known as Leo_Biaxomus.
- Leo|Remaining_Quiet thinks Falaerin is a pain, but repects his oppinion.
- Lkeas: alright
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- Lord_Me: v_v
- Falerin: As for your question I cannot answer vaugeries with infinite possible answers
- Falerin: particularly if I lack all of them myself
- Lkeas: haha true
- Lord_Me: will the messenger come back? i miss him
- Falerin: If NOVA has indeed done away with him he will not
- Falerin: If in fact he is hiding as he seemed to indicate
- Falerin: It is possible he will or will not
- Falerin: Neither of which I can answer for you
- Lkeas: hmm
- Falerin: his fate something to which I am privvy
- Lord_Me: well, I guess I'll have to hate nova 'til he comes back
- Lord_Me: do you have any idea of what NOVA stands for?
- Lkeas: is it an acronym at all?
- Leo_Biaxomus: Lord_me, do not hate NOVA, we do not even know their true intention, yet.
- Falerin: As has already been stated I do not know what they stand for... oh what the name stands for.... it could be Not just Old Very Ancient for all I know
- Falerin: Or it may not be an acronym at all
- Falerin: That Leo_Biaxomus has always been my opinion as well.. You score one point
- Lord_Me: Nand of Vising Avil maybe >_>
- Lkeas: oh, are we playing a game now?
- Lkeas: wait...
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- Falerin: Though I do recommend being vigiliant where they are concerned...
- Lord_Me: I just don't like them
- Falerin: How rational....
- Lord_Me: there's something about the picture of the fetus...
- Falerin: A fetus signifies growing life...
- Lkeas: but yes, i agree... we should keep all three eyes open
- Lord_Me: it could also signify that they do animal tests on unborn babies >_>
- Falerin: The fetus in the picture is clearly still alive its not as if they are some kind of abortion clinic
- Falerin: Now that is a stretch of even my imagination.. You score -1 points for lameness and for doing The'galin's work for him
- Lkeas: yikes
- Lord_Me: no fair!
- Lord_Me: I don't like this game
- Falerin: Thats unfortunate.. as The'galin does not let anyone choose not to play
- Falerin considers the latest changes to the seekers site
- Falerin: A new profile avatar
- Falerin: which... means something...
- Falerin: thats very clear
- Lkeas: isn't it the same head that's been popping up in other places?
- Lord_Me: it's like Maxwell's avatar but..y'know... not
- Falerin: A song choice.... Tim McGraw
- Lord_Me: so it's Tim McGraw in his avvy? It all makes sence now!
- Leo_Biaxomus: Falaerin, this is slightly old news.
- Falerin: Its different from maxwells avatar in some keyways.. there are more discernable features in it...you can tell for instance for sure that its definitely a masked figure... the color has distinct color in it
- Leo_Biaxomus: Arrgghh! Curse my evil hands and their misspellings!
- Lkeas: it's news, but it's still in need of explanation
- Falerin: Where maxwells is much more shadowy
- Falerin: The other changes are pretty apparent two the light is eroding the image....
- Lord_Me: Maxwell's is like a sillouhette
- Falerin: and glaring on its face
- Lkeas: true
- Lkeas: a destructive light force?
- Lkeas: hmm
- Lord_Me: those thingies!
- Lord_Me: that start with b... it think
- Lkeas: lol
- Lkeas: how eloquent
- Lkeas: brilhado
- Lord_Me: yeah
- Leo_Biaxomus: Maybe, It is the representation of the evil and good in Hope?
- Falerin: No I do not think it represnts the Brilhado
- Lkeas: what is evil? what is good? what is Hope?
- Lord_Me: maybe Lorithia is eaten The'galin
- Falerin: As the original image Maxwell's shilloute .... seems sinister
- Falerin: So if that image is designed to be sinister
- Falerin: and its eroding that image
- Leo_Biaxomus: Evil and good cannot be defined, as, everyone has diffrent opinion on the matter.
- Lkeas: hmm... so the light is attempting to erode a sinister representation?
- Lkeas: does that make it "good" then?
- Lord_Me: not really, Leo, it's simple. Lorithia = good, The'galin = bad
- Falerin: In either case.. there is one thing totally unseen in both images.... tho
- Falerin: Even with the increased detail and features to the collar and hood on the image on Seeker's site
- Lkeas: what is that?
- Falerin: And even with light glaring right there to reveal it
- Lkeas: no face?
- Falerin: No face
- Lkeas: faceless.
- Lord_Me: the eyes?
- Leo_Biaxomus: Lord_me, that isn't true, Lorithia is creation, and The'Galin is uncreation. Creation brings evil and good, while uncreation end everything. And, yes I know uncreation Isn't a real word.
- Lord_Me: it has eyes in Nova's myspace
- Falerin: Neither image has any facial details whatsoever
- Leo_Biaxomus: ends*
- Falerin: Uncreation is a real word
- Leo_Biaxomus: It is?
- Leo_Biaxomus: Not according to my dictionary.
- Falerin: With in the context of Lore it most certainly is because it is a force... within the world
- Falerin: Your dictionary defines terms unique to LORE then does it?
- Leo_Biaxomus: No, it does not.
- Falerin: Did I write it I wonder...
- Falerin: Ah
- Lord_Me: yeah, but i could make up a wor'd of my oen, and call elephants glacks. Would that make glack a word?
- Falerin: Good I was going to say I do not recall writin such a thing
- Falerin: Yes....
- Lkeas: glack would be a word to you
- Lord_Me: really?
- Falerin: Reference Jaberwocky
- Falerin: It would not make it a proper word in your language however
- Lord_Me: Jabberwocky sits in the old gum tree...
- Lkeas: not quite
- Lkeas: lol
- Falerin: Reference the word Ain't
- Lkeas: heh. try "D'oh!" while you're at it too
- Falerin: Which is improper because it actually defies rules of words/contractions
- Falerin: D'oh is not a contraction as such so its fine.. its an "Expletive"
- Lord_Me: what about won't? Eh?
- Lkeas: i see
- Lord_Me: it should be will'nt
- Lord_Me: but it ain't
- Falerin: The contraction of Will and not to w'ont is actually explained by gramatical rules and their bizzare exceptions with semantics to tiresome to follow
- Falerin: but it at least has the same rules with just a letter substitution
- Lkeas: fun
- Falerin: Aint on the other hand... does not use any identifiable root and WORSE substitues for a contraction that already exists
- Falerin: Isn't
- Lkeas: true - how did we get on this again?
- Falerin: Which is just as easy to use
- Lkeas: ah yes. uncreation
- Falerin: Also worse it substitutes for MULTIPLE things
- Falerin: providing a pseudo contraction for Amn't
- Falerin: which is not used in the english language really
- Lkeas: that's true, huh. it's always "i'm not"
- Lkeas: versus "you aren't"
- Leo_Biaxomus: Why are we disccusing grammar, and the english language?
- Lkeas: because you said uncreation wasn't a word
- Lkeas: if you recall
- Lord_Me: i wanna talk about nova
- Falerin: because sir you said uncreation was not a word
- Falerin: And then when I told you it was because it was defined in a specific vocabulary
- Leo_Biaxomus: I know why it started, but not why we are still disccusing it.
- Falerin: Lord_Me tried to argue that it would still not be a word
- Lkeas: alright alright, so why does NOVA have a picture of a faceless at all... and why does The Seeker show a faceless getting eroded by light? presumably a blue light?
- Falerin: And thats of course nonsensical. Words enter language all the time when they need to be provided to describe somehting new
- Falerin: The light does not seem colored to me
- Falerin: Its just glare
- Lkeas: then what is the blue for?
- Falerin: could be white light
- Falerin: Color of the clothing itself?
- Lkeas: a blue faceless?
- Falerin: I mean its clear it is clothing
- Lkeas: is something going to happen to the faceless in the blue clothing?
- Falerin: its not in Silloute like Maxwells
- Falerin: Where we can assume nothing
- Falerin: If its a specific faceless in blue clothing it would be an Avatar
- Lord_Me: there's a full verson of Maxwell's with eyes in Nova myspace
- Falerin: though I tend to think it does not represent a specific being at all
- Lkeas: no? then why blue at all? why not just erode the unspecific one in maxwell's image?
- Leo_Biaxomus: It could represent us.
- Falerin: Because thats featureless
- Falerin: It does not look like a being
- Falerin: it looks like a sillouette as you said
- Lkeas: my monitor must be miscalibrated... the blue image does not look much clearer
- Lkeas: just a head with sunglasses
- Lord_Me: but the EYES
- Lkeas: are they eyes? or reflections?
- Lord_Me: (Link: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=115262511&MyToken=c3ad7d1a-2cc1-4ffd-a4f2-9633d303674d)http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=115262511&MyToken=c3ad7d1a-2cc1-4ffd-a4f2-9633d303674d
- Lord_Me: there
- Falerin:: That head with the eyes does NOT look like the same picture as Maxwells forum icons or the figure to me
- Falerin: That is a different image
- Lord_Me: wait a sec
- Falerin: The shape is not even right
- Falerin: The shape of maxwell's forum head is hooded
- Falerin: same with Seekers
- Falerin: that one is not
- Falerin: its clearly wearing glasses
- Lkeas
- ...my goodness, must i bust out the photoshop to compare?
- Falerin: Evidentally
- Falerin: But the differences are GLARING to me
- Falerin: and I looked just casually
- Lkeas: perhaps you see more than we do
- Lord_Me: yeah, Falerin's right
- Lord_Me: it's ear's are too big =/
- Lord_Me: that's all i picked up
- Falerin: it has no hood
- Falerin: it is a bald man with glasses on
- Falerin: it has no hood
- Falerin: at all
- Lkeas: NOVA's?
- Falerin: aye
- Lord_Me: the other one has a hood on?
- Lord_Me: geez
- Leo_Biaxomus thinks he musts be blind, he sees no glasses, only a blue and black orb.
- Lord_Me: really?
- Falerin: Though it does look .. hmm now isn't that peculiar
- Lkeas: ?
- Falerin: An optical illusion....
- Falerin: how clever
- Lord_Me: eh?
- Lord_Me: where?
- Falerin: And that explains it...
- Lord_Me: i see no illusion >_>
- Lkeas: explains what??
- Lkeas: ok, here are the three together. i see very little difference.
- Lkeas: (Link:
- Lord_Me: Falerin's building up tension and i don't like it
- Falerin: And the reason for that is quite apparent...
- Falerin: Which image did you see first?
- Lord_Me: Maxwell's
- Lkeas: yeah
- Leo_Biaxomus: Intruiging, I see an illusion, but not what this illsuion is.
- Falerin: I too saw Maxwells first
- Falerin: adn then the seekers second
- Falerin: I only saw this third image today
Lord_Me: i saw maxwell's, nova's then seeker's
- Falerin: When I saw the two of them....I assumed that seekers and maxwells pictures were totally complete
- Falerin: I never though they were cropped images
- Lord_Me: cropped?
- Lkeas: oh?
- Lkeas: what did you believe the glasses to be?
- Lord_Me: er... what's a cropped image?
- Lkeas: it means it's cut up
- Lkeas: not the entirety
- Lord_Me: oh, i knew that
- Falerin: I took the bottom of the image to be not glasses frames or something but an elaborate collar of the sort you might see on some uniforms or like a stormtrooper or something drakel like
- Falerin: And the head was facing profile with no face apparent beneath a hood
- Lkeas: facing left?
- Falerin: The face would be ABOVE where the eyes appear to be in the other image
- Lord_Me: i thought it was sarth vader when i first saw it
- Falerin: Since I saw that.... I took nothing of it
- Lkeas: an interesting imagination you have, Falerin
- Falerin: and when the colored picture made it appear as the Seekers was wearing blue
- Falerin: They definitely did not appear as glasses
- Falerin: Absolutely appearing to confirm it was some type of clothing
- Lkeas: but has your opinion changed?
- Leo_Biaxomus: Oddly, it looks like the back of someone's head.
- Falerin: Therefore when I saw the new image....
- Lkeas: eyes in the back of the head, eh leo?
- Lord_Me: you know, the ears ARE bigger on the complete image
- Falerin: But now I see that it does.... but I still do not think I was wrong to begin with
- Falerin: What I think is....
- Falerin: Hold on
- Lkeas looks for something to hold on to
- Leo_Biaxomus: And now Falerin will assasinated, great.
- Lkeas: yeah right
- Falerin:
- Lkeas: he's probably got some kind of deal going on with the reaper
- Leo_Biaxomus: It's happened to everyone who hs helped us before.
- Falerin: Wgat do you see in that image
- Lkeas: that's a famous image
- Falerin: Yes
- Falerin: It is
- Falerin: For a reason
- Falerin: What is in there
- Lkeas: the young woman, or the old woman
- Lord_Me: an old lady and a young lady
- Falerin: But heavens it cannot be both
- Lord_Me: the young lady looks realler
- Falerin: it has to be one person
- Lkeas: but in reality it is neither, since it's really a drawing
- Falerin: I have seen old women walk exactly like that with their chin in their coat
- Lord_Me: it's the young one
- Lkeas: ;)
- Falerin: I have never seen women wear a veil that tacky
- Falerin: if the young woman is real
- Falerin: So I think not
- Falerin: Reality is not something that can be derived from representational media
- Lkeas: exactly
- Falerin: Which leads me to the point....
- Falerin: These images all three of them are like that.. they are shadowy and designed to evoke different things
- Falerin: Though I think it safe to say all three represent the Faceless
- Lkeas: yes
- Falerin: But the one on Nova's site is really crappy
- Lkeas: lol
- Falerin: Eyes are part of a face
- Falerin: If you have eyes... you have a face
- Falerin: if you have no face you have nothing
- Falerin: blankness where the face should be
- Falerin: not eyes floating there
- Lord_Me: maybe he has his eyes closed
- Lkeas: a faceless cannot have ears either?
- Falerin: Which is not to say that these beings have no "Face" literally
- Falerin: Generally my definition of face includes the ears
- Lord_Me: messenger sez faceless have faces
- Lkeas: hmm
- Lkeas: that IS interesting... i thought they were the same, but NOVA's does indeed have eyes
- Lkeas: (had to crank up the contrast in PS)
- [01:17] Lkeas: well, regardless... why would The Seeker show a faceless getting eroded? we don't even know what the intentions of the faceless are
- [01:17] *** Leo_Biaxomus is now known as Leo.
- [01:17] *** Quin has signed off IRC (Ping timeout).
- [01:18] Lord_Me: a foodsource is their goal, apparently
- [01:18] Leo: It could symoblize a soul, as the faceless's foorsource are souls.
- [01:18] Leo: foodsource*
- [01:19] Lkeas: don't we all need food sources?
- [01:19] Lord_Me: yeah, but they're controlled by agents
- [01:19] Leo: Yes, and without them we die, and wend we die our bodys decompose/erode.
- [01:20] Leo: when*
- [01:20] Leo: Sorry, I'm watching Naruto, I'm still wondering why people think it's great.
- [01:20] Lkeas: heh
- [01:20] Lkeas: it has its ups and downs
- [01:21] Lkeas: i think i shall be signing off for the night
- [01:21] Leo: G'night.
- [01:21] Lkeas: goodnight!