Delusions Abound

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[05:23] <Maxx> And if NOVA is attempting to suppress the truth about Hope in order to protect us. . .?

[05:24] <Maxx> Remember: If we did not enter the world of Lore, everything would be fine.

[05:24] <Damsel> How could that possibly be? Ignorence is bliss right up until the time of uncreation?

[05:24] <Damsel> Yes. We were the ones who forced open the vault.

[05:24] <Maxx> Even before that.

[05:27] <Maxx> IIRC, Maxwell said that as soon as the first player stepped into the world of Lore, the world was doomed to Uncreation.

[05:27] <Damsel> An interesting conundrum. However, I still fail to see how that is relevent to NOVA's current actions being interpreted as protection.

[05:28] <Maxx> Perhaps some feel that if truth is suppressed, there is still a chance that The'Galin will stop his advance.

[05:28] <Maxx> While others realize the only way to stop the advance of Uncreation is by helping us release Hope.

[05:29] <Maxx> Hence the "corrupt" nature of NOVA.

[05:30] <Bartimaeus> ((does anyone here have full shadow?))

[05:30] <Maxx> ((Yes))

[05:30] <KingK> hey

[05:31] <Damsel> Possible, I suppose. I think perhaps it is far more likely that part of NOVA came to the realization that the mother computer did in "I, Robot." That is to say that humanity is it's own worse enemy and to protect them, you must eliminate them

[05:31] * Maxx grins: "Speak of the devil. . ."

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[05:31] <Barrius> Greetings to thee, Diviara.

[05:31] <Damsel> Good day to you, Diviara

[05:31] <KingK> hello Diviara

[05:31] <Diviara> Delusions abound. Myth's shall be dispelled.

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[05:32] <Damsel> Then please, enlighten us.

[05:32] <Diviara> The greatest lie is the truth.

[05:32] <KingK> by whom?

[05:32] <Diviara> The greatest weapon is the truth.

[05:32] <Diviara> NOVA serves The'Galin

[05:32] <Diviara> They are his willing agents

[05:33] <Diviara> NOONE in that Agency seeks to stop him

[05:33] <Diviara> NOT ONE person

[05:33] <Diviara> They are the masters servitors. They seek the annihilation of the human race. They are corrupted vesperians

[05:33] <Diviara> and that is how they are corrupted

[05:33] <Diviara> Since Vesperians normally aid humanity

[05:33] <Diviara> Whereas NOVA wants the precise opposite in their aims

[05:34] <Diviara> The destruction of humanity or it'st total conversion into other than humanity

[05:34] <Diviara> Entertaining any other thoughts about NOVA's intention is folly

[05:34] <KingK> as are you so how are we to believe you when its also possible that you are picking at the hate that is already forwarded at NOVA by saying that they are in leagues with your master

[05:35] <Maxx> You speak rather fast--like a politician about to lose the race.

[05:35] <Diviara> Believe me or not.

[05:35] <Barrius> Have they always been that way? Or were they themselves corrupted?

[05:35] <Diviara> Such is up to you.....

[05:35] <Diviara> They were once Barrius Vesperians

[05:35] <KingK> you always come to make claims but yet you never bring proof

[05:35] <Diviara> But since they became NOVA

[05:35] <Diviara> they have been thus

[05:35] <Diviara> That is the corruption

[05:36] <Damsel> Do you know what they have done to Galrick?

[05:36] <Diviara> The distortion of Vesperian nature

[05:36] <Diviara> I belive my lady that I made that clear yesterday

[05:36] * Diviara looks at kingk

[05:36] <Diviara> Proof can be fabricated.

[05:36] <KingK> as can "facts"

[05:36] <Diviara> You will either believe me or not believe me as is your won't

[05:36] <Diviara> Neither concerns me.

[05:37] * Diviara smiles

[05:37] * Barrius glares at KingK. "We should not be so willing to throw out information...."

[05:37] <Diviara> Indeed that conundrum amuses me

[05:37] <Damsel> It is one most complex.

[05:37] <Diviara> Am I lying

[05:37] <Diviara> IS what I say a ploy

[05:37] <Diviara> Am I telling the truth

[05:37] <Bartimaeus> ((Hey, there's a new monster!!!))

[05:37] <Diviara> Is what I say STILL a ploy

[05:38] * Barrius shrugs at Diviara's questions. Consider everything, discard nothing.

[05:38] <Diviara> You ultimately will make your own choices won't you....

[05:38] <Barrius> That is how I prefer to think things through....

[05:38] <Diviara> You will eventually conclude what you conclude

[05:38] <Damsel> We all must

[05:38] <Maxx> Your sudden appearance does seem more than coincidental.

[05:38] <Diviara> I am always watching Caretaker

[05:38] * Barrius grins. "Of course."

[05:39] <Maxx> That you are.

[05:39] * Diviara was kicked by Diviara (Threaten me again and you will die Caretaker )

[05:39] <Bartimaeus> ((Gatta BURP slayer))

[05:39] <KingK> so tell me then why do you assisst us with this information if it will truly help us?

[05:39] <KingK> even though you are so devoted to your master

[05:39] * Maxx pretends to shake in his boots.

[05:40] * Damsel appears puzzled.

[05:40] * Maxx was kicked by Diviara (Just so its clear my power extends over you as well )

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[05:40] * Tralin sets mode: +ao Maxx Maxx

[05:40] * Barrius nods. "That is....strangely exactly the answer I expected to my question."

[05:40] * Maxx smiles: "Auto-rejoin FTW!!"

[05:40] * Maxx is now known as Q

[05:40] * Q has left #755

[05:40] * Q has joined #755

[05:41] <Q> Silly Tralin. . .

[05:41] <Q> ops are for kids.

[05:41] * Q is now known as Maxx

[05:41] <Diviara> You would be well to consider that for all your belief that my words are empty posturing. I do possess the ability to cause you a great deal of discomfort indeed.

[05:41] <KingK> you have yet to answer me Diviara

[05:42] <Diviara> You Caretaker have chosen singularly to be my enemy and your tactic is your own. The others have chosen to play concilatory. Which is more effective I wonder...

[05:42] * Barrius glares at KingK. "Do you always have to look at things from one angle?"

[05:42] <Diviara> Nor, Mr. Jones. Will I

[05:43] <Diviara> Your question is meaningless drivel.

[05:43] * Damsel appears deep in thought.

[05:43] * KingK glares back, "you dont see anything strange about the fact that he is so willing to assist us but yet still is devoted to his master?"

[05:43] <Barrius> Not in the slightest.

[05:44] <KingK> meaningless drivel or a bit too good of a question to answer?

[05:44] <Diviara> The number of misconceptions it contains is numerous. The points on which it can be refuted extensive. So to take a page from the Lore master. Moo Moo Moo Mu.

[05:44] <KingK> haha very well

[05:44] <KingK> its withdrawn

[05:44] * Damsel chuckles.

[05:44] * Barrius grins.

[05:45] <KingK> so may i ask how you are here when falerin made sure that none of you would ever return here?

[05:45] * Diviara has joined #755

[05:45] <KingK> or is that yet another one of your masters outstanding abilities?

[05:45] <Barrius> I don't mind his presense. Why should you?

[05:45] <Diviara> Mu

[05:46] <KingK> hm

[05:46] <Diviara> Though this cow sctick is getting boring

[05:46] <Useless> KingK, that question has been answered among ourselves already.

[05:46] <Diviara> Try asking a well formed and pertinent question for once

[05:46] * KingK sighs

[05:46] <KingK> dont insult me i havent been around all too much

[05:46] <Diviara> The fact is even your LoreMaster has no idea how to classify me

[05:46] <Diviara> So he in fact allows me

[05:47] <Diviara> He fears that if he excludes me and I have something valuable to say you will miss it

[05:47] <Diviara> and if there is a chance to "save me"

[05:47] <Diviara> it will be missed

[05:47] * Diviara laughs heartily

[05:47] * Damsel smiles slightly.

[05:48] <KingK> ah so in short he takes no chances that your information is false or true only that it may be useful so if you wish to say it he allows you to is that it?

[05:48] <Diviara> I should imagine so

[05:48] * Leo: [AFK] is now known as Leo

* Looking up Leo user info...

[05:48] <KingK> ah

[05:48] <Diviara> Perhaps because my actions have already "aided him and others"

[05:48] <Diviara> A fact that cannot be denied at all

[05:49] <Diviara> My reasons for it can be questioned

[05:49] <Barrius> Indeed....

[05:49] <Diviara> but the fact of the actions cannot

[05:49] <Damsel> It is an interesting game you play, Diviara. I wonder if you even know all the rules.

[05:49] <KingK> he knows exactly what hes doing

[05:49] <Diviara> No.

[05:49] <Diviara> Why know all the rules.

[05:49] <Diviara> They are only going to be broken anyway.

[05:49] * Diviara smirks

[05:50] <KingK> hes giving us just the information we need but not enough to truly solve these mysteries.

[05:50] * Barrius chuckles. "Reminds me of the old saying 'rules are made to be broken'."

[05:50] <Diviara> Indeed they are Barrius.... indeed they are.

[05:51] * Diviara extends a single wing and reaches up a hand to scratch it

[05:51] <Maxx> Or, kingk, he's giving us just enough information to lead us to the conclusion he wants.

[05:51] <Diviara> People also assume wrongly that I care which conclusion you make.

[05:51] <Diviara> Have you considered that the conclusion may not be the point

[05:52] <Diviara> That regardless of your descision my point may be served

[05:52] <Damsel> I wonder if he might refer as well to roles that are being broken.

[05:52] <Maxx> Yes, Galrick may very well not have any more useful information.

[05:53] <Diviara> You endorse abandonding the seeker to his fate do you... How interesting.

[05:53] <Maxx> Merely bringing up the possibility.

[05:53] <Diviara> But the fact remains that if you are "good" you should want to save him even if he is patently useless

[05:54] <Diviara> And you are aware of the fact absolutely

[05:54] <Maxx> Presumably.

[05:54] <Diviara> Then again... no one claimed you were...

[05:55] <Maxx> The method of "saving" him I also question.

[05:55] <Diviara> I will give R. Cartwright some credit. His redesign of the seekers page is slick and even tasteful.