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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Good evening.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Afternoon, Xian.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: So...
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: What am I here for?
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| - | Break Miyama: I'll let Amadeus proceed.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I'm can only guess there's some sort of problem if I'm in an AIM chat
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Oh, yeah..
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Well...
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| - | Thats So Unreal: You know, I'm just going to put it in an extremely blunt fashion.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Calenine has several "stupid" users that are ruining it for everyone.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Well, for me and Skyelyn, anyway.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: ...
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Explain.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: If you want the best example, look at Yuki.
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| - | Break Miyama: It's gotten to the point where I've considered leaving Cale.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I see.
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| - | Break Miyama: It's well-run, and the community is decent....
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| - | Break Miyama: But people like Yuki really do ruin that.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: This isn't really what I'd call news. People like Yuki bug me too
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: That's why it was hard for me to make someone like her a mod.
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| - | Break Miyama: So I've heard.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Seriously.
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| - | Break Miyama: Personally, I'd rather lack a mod than to have someone who is ill-qualified to fill the position.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Well, okay, so you've both told me that there are users that are best done something with.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: How to you propose I deal with this?
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| - | Thats So Unreal: How about using those admin powers?
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Ban some asses.
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| - | Break Miyama: .....well, perhaps not banning outright.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Pah.
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| - | Break Miyama: That is a last resort, if anything.
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| - | Break Miyama: A warning -should- be sufficient as a first effort.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Are you kidding me? If I wanted to ban everyone I wanted to ban, I would have done it ages ago.
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| - | Break Miyama: What's stopping you?
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I can't just ban people for acting like loons. I need to make the game appeal on a somewhat common level
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I mean, I can't just tell people "START ROLEPLAYING BETTER DAMMIT," but you're both right
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Something does need to be done about this
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: This isn't the first this has been brought to my attention
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| - | Break Miyama: I see nothing wrong with putting your foot down regarding such a situation, even if it'll make you seem like a bit of an asshole to others.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Apparently.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Hmm
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I guess you're right
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: There's no point in keeping users no one wants.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Right
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Nothing of value was lost
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| - | Break Miyama: At least see if they're willing to change first.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: That's reasonable.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I could start imposing guidelines and much more active patrols
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I would at least like to change horrible users if I possibly can
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| - | Break Miyama: Examples of such guidelines?
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Zocra was changed, was he not?
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: True
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Zocra used to be a thirteen year old pain in the ass.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: But. he's got on my good side quite a bit recently.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I don't want to lose any users, i really don't.
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| - | Break Miyama: If losing some users will improve the quality of the site, I see nothing wrong with it.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Especially you two. I'm not trying to pay forward lipservice, both of you are excellent roleplayers I want to see around.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Like, when a new user comes along that seems A-list, I make sure I get them engaged straight from the get-go
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| - | Break Miyama: I will put it this way: not ever user has to be valued equally.
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| - | Break Miyama: Keeping that which isn't of quality will cause those who are worth having to jump ship.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: That's why Skyelyn is in two of my quests, and why I asked Okami to make sure Amadeus gets good with the pirates.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Can I ask something?
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| - | Break Miyama: Do not be afraid to put your foot down. THis is a situation in which application of power is entirely appropriate.
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| - | Break Miyama: .....albiet, the first killed off in one quest....
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Now now, I didn't say it would end there, now did I?
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| - | Break Miyama: Death is rather final.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Death is, yes.
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| - | Break Miyama: But it's hardly relevant now.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: But, I never said that's how it would end up being
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I'll leave it at that.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Umm...
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Oh right
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Please, ask.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Thank you.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Why is Yuki so favored anyway? It seems like she is seeing as how she gets away with so much.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Ugh...
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Yuki is sort of like a good food that looks horrible.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Allow me to explain.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Yuki has been with us since version two. And she was pretty much responsible for referring over half our active users, both back then and in some cases, now.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Plus she's donated money to the site and bought a t-shirt when they went on sale.
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| - | Break Miyama: Then talking to her would be the best option.
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| - | Break Miyama: Quite frankly, she acts like a two-year-old.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I'm more than aware of this.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I was planning on giving her a stern talking-to eventually.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Like, soon
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Doooo it.
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| - | Break Miyama: It would help.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: I've been with Calenine for...a somewhat good while
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| - | Thats So Unreal: And I know it's a good site
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| - | Thats So Unreal: But Skyelyn is a relatively new user, and people like her don't know that for a fact.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: And when Yuki goes around posting manic smiley faces and doing random shit, it doesn't paint a good picture for potential good users.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: I think now we understand why you haven't torn her a new asshole yet being how she's played a valuable role with the site.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: But still
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Come on, you have to tame her somewhat.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: You're right.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: You're both right.
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| - | Break Miyama: Why am I reading about torture devices as we're talking about effective user discipline?....
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| - | Break Miyama: ...I mean.
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| - | Break Miyama: Yes.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I'm going to be truthful here
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Users the admins don't like often get maltreatment IC.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Like, death, torture, EXP loss, money loss
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| - | Break Miyama: That's fine.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: That sort of thing
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Perhaps it's about time Yuki got knocked down a peg.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: That would be lovely
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Come on, you're the character with the Nazi-style armband
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Start making with the stereotype of brutality!
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| - | Break Miyama: Lawful Evil: Anything you cannot get to conform, you choke the everloving shit out of.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Xian's meant to be the Calenine Napoleon or Alexander the Great.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Hell, even Stalin could describe him
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I'm sure I could be a little more lethal than I have been
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Not just a little
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Lots!
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| - | Break Miyama: IF anything, a shift in character could promote interest if applied well.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Well, ever since I implemented the Diplomacy and Economics system, we've been taking the issue of land conquest seriously
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Instead of just looking like the brutal conquerer, maybe I should start acting it. Crucifixion, water torture, burning alive, cutting off limbs
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| - | Break Miyama: MAke one of those conquests happen.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: The possibilities are endless.
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| - | Break Miyama: That's the spirit.
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| - | Break Miyama: Invite hell.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: I might have to fight against you being a pirate, but I'm all in favor of that.
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| - | Break Miyama: She's a wonderful guest.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I'm up to anything.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: But, more to the point of the issue at hand
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Both of you have completely turned me onto the fact that user stupidity is not something I can just simply turn my back on and expect to magically go away
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| - | Break Miyama: I fully expect action to be taken as a result, then.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: If I didn't have a migraine from staring at the computer for several hours without a break, I'd put some sort of action in right now.
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| - | Break Miyama: If it works out, you shall see me posting again.
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| - | Break Miyama: It can wait for a little bit, if you're not in the mindset for it.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I've got all day tommorow...later today.
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| - | Break Miyama: Fair enough.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: The last thing I want is to lose users I actually value
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| - | Break Miyama: Alright.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: And how.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I'll tell you both what.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I'll devise a content regulation system tommorow.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Essentially, it's telling the users "STOP SUCKING SO MUCH," but I'll go into more details
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| - | Break Miyama: Alright.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Even I'm starting to grow annoyed at the consistency at which some Calenine users are being morons
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I've been running this site since early 2003, it's been through two crashes, five versions, and endless amounts of mods, but I'm not giving up on it
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: There are no bad ideas. And I'm extremely glad this was brought up
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| - | Break Miyama: THe reassurance is lovely, but I do want to see this acted through.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Yes, what she said.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Ask anyone who has given me suggestions, I always put them into action if they're good.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: And this is gold, trust me
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Oh wait, before we forget.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: The race based stat system.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: I'll be frank
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| - | Break Miyama: Run the content regulation system by us before implementation.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Please get rid of it
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| - | Break Miyama: .....actually, level progression in general is rather terrible.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: In response to the content regulation methods, can do.
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| - | Break Miyama: It's linear and relies on small numbers, meaning that stat gaps get very large very quickly.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: In response to the race based stat thing, I'll see what I can do
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: It was something started by Tutelage, and a billion users have complained about it
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: In fact, I don't think I've heard anything good about it.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Hmm, I'll see what i can do.
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| - | Break Miyama: The roleplaying opportunities -should- be sufficient motivation to play any particular race.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: That's what I was thinking
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| - | Break Miyama: I'll get into the mathematics of the level progression at a later time.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: When Tutelage brought this up to me, I only thought we were going to add roleplaying benefits, not battle ones
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: And then...
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Well, you know.
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| - | Break Miyama: Yeah.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Yeah, I can see the roleplaying benefits being okay
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Like flying Dragons, Aquarians that can breathe underwater
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| - | Thats So Unreal: That's fine.
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| - | Break Miyama: 10% more melee damage if you're a demon....
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| - | Break Miyama: ......seriously.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: But, you know...
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Right now, under what Tutelage made, I, a Demon Long Arm will have like, three times more ATK than Skye, a Human Long Arm by level 10
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| - | Thats So Unreal: That...just isn't cool.
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| - | Break Miyama: Exactly.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I assure you
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I'll get it revised
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| - | Break Miyama: Stat difference between classes are also a problem, but less so.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I don't want to get rid of it completely because it will kinda be a kick in the grocones to Tutelage who made it, but I'll revise it so it's only roleplaying benefits rather than stat ones
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: He seemed up to that last time I talked to him.
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| - | Break Miyama: Got it.
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| - | Break Miyama: I'll see if I can talk to you about the math of stats between classes later.
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| - | Break Miyama: See if it's really what you want.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Again, suggestions are welcome.
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| - | Break Miyama: At the moment, it's 2:30 AM, and my mind is begging me to sleep.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: PM them to me if you want to inquire about that.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: So then I have a hard copy
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Sorta
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Yeah, me to
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Lightweights
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| - | Break Miyama: Trillian automatically logs IM conversations for me.
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| - | Break Miyama: Hard copies are rarely a problem in a live conversation.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: It's only noon here.
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| - | Break Miyama: It's the afternoon for you, Amadeus - you're hardly in a position to speak.
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| - | Break Miyama: As it stands, I do have finals soon.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Well, a PM would be nice still
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| - | Break Miyama: Fair enough.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: That way I can see it whilst browsing Calenine
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| - | Break Miyama: I'll try to send one your way tomorrow, but it may reach you as late as Friday because of finals.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Skye's got the ideas, I'm merely a communicator.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Good enough
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| - | Break Miyama: If you say so.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: And I promise that if you stay in the quests I've got you on, I'll make them worth yout while
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: your*
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Both of you
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| - | Break Miyama: .....as I said, if the changes are done correctly, I'll start posting again.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Oh, I know they will.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Then I'll do whatever it takes.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Send me your suggestions, I'll see what I can do
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I guess it is time I assert power, especially when USERS themselves are telling me to
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Yes
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| - | Break Miyama: "Whatever it takes"? That seems less like you're trying to improve the site and more like you're trying to impress me, given what you've responded to. =P
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| - | Thats So Unreal: If the retards can't handle it, nothing of value was lost
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| - | Thats So Unreal: It's what I've been saying all night long.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Oh don't think I'm giving you special treatment
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| - | Break Miyama: I never assumed that.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I just take these sorts of things seriously.
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| - | Break Miyama: Right, then.
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| - | Break Miyama: We'll see how it goes.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Usually when users I like start giving me suggestions, they're generally good ones.
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| - | Thats So Unreal: Hoolay
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| - | Break Miyama: Regarding Big Brother....
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Go on.
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| - | Break Miyama: .....I really fail to see how the characters can be so calm in the face of death.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: ...
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| - | Break Miyama: Galahad, he's drunk. He has an excuse.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: That was bugging me too
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Well yeah
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| - | Break Miyama: But everyone is so emotionless.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I mean, the one NPC I brung in, I had him drown his troubles in liquor
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| - | Break Miyama: Even the good characters of the bunch stand idle as one of their own is about to die.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Maybe I should have someone "accidentally" trip over the red line
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| - | Break Miyama: It's silly.
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| - | Break Miyama: Who needs tripping?
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| - | Break Miyama: Just blow someone up indiscriminately.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Which is why I used the modifier "accidentally"
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| - | Thats So Unreal: I get organs
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| - | Thats So Unreal: I put them in plastic bags
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| - | Thats So Unreal: With teriyaki sauce
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Yes
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: You do that.
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| - | Break Miyama: It's win/win.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I really need to go to bed. My head hurts so bad it might hemmorhage if I stare at the computer for much longer.
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| - | Break Miyama: Understood. We'll speak again soon.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Skye, please PM me your suggestions, or notify me by AIM, whatever's convenient.
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| - | Break Miyama: Noted.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Amadeus, if you have anything to contribute, see prior
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| - | Thats So Unreal: I hear you loud and clear
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Anyway, i go now.
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: I*
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| - | Iliad Chronicle: Good night everyone
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| - | Thats So Unreal: See you.
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