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Dear Dhjt, I would also like to suggest rephrasing these major categories below too:

• Background - fine
• Structure - not quite sure what this means?

This is short for 'Structure of the Vinaya' - the scripture.

• Patimokkha - use diacrticals in all articles and headings, only never mind in Talk pages and behind the scenes, so Pātimokkha. (I'll send you a handy Paali scratch pad that allows you to type in velthius code and it converts to UTF-8 or VRI.)

I am busy trying to get the Wikipedia diacriticals (see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buddha_%28disambiguation%29&action=edit - bottom of page) into WikiVinaya, but it's proving a bit harder than I suspected. I requested help from editthis.info but they didn't reply yet.

• Mahavagga - better to use non-sectarian terminology, just 'Khandhakas' for both Mahaavagga ("The Big Book") and Cuulavagga (the "Small Book"). 'Khandhaka' or 'Vastu' would be recognised by Vinaya scholars of other traditions too. I should add this as a point in the Standardising the Structure page (always include which Khandhaka when citing the Mv and Cv).
• Culavagga

OK by me

• Sutta Pitaka - maybe a section in 'Background' called "Dhamma & Vinaya" would be better for this, or a mention in the main page that leads to a little article?

Here I actually mean Vinaya-related parts of the Sutta-Pitaka, I know there are a few which are quite interesting, like the time when Buddha went into a three-month retreat, and the Sangha adpoted a new pacittiya, isn't that one in the Sutta-pitaka somewhere?

• Commentaries - Have a look in the "Texts and Structure of Vinaya texts" that I sent you, you might find the sections on the commentaries in there useful.
• Monastery rules - I wouldn't include this controversial topic as a category. The nature of 'Kor Wat' in terms of Vinaya, what 'Kor Wat' means in various Thai monasteries and in WPN is a complex and controversial area.

Many people are confused about kor wat and vinaya and mix it, that's why I feel it does need a place in WikiVinaya, I think not to include all the kor watta - it's just to varied and uncertain, but still good to have a link to it from the main page I think. What's the Vinaya perspective on Kor wat is a good one for WV I think. The individual rules can have some info on some kor wat in the commentaries section maybe?

• Categories

I hope you like the editing I did on the main page, if not it's all saved I think. BFN, Santi. Bhikkhu Santi 01:39, 1 July 2006 (EDT)

Yes it's true all old versions can be easily get back. Sometimes I think your language is a bit difficult, I prefer easier terms myself, but it's basically ok I think. I am going to move some parts of it to the relevant pages; I believe the part on Fundamental Guidelines belongs with the Guideniles on discussion - I will integrate it there. By the way, WikiVinaya is not a forum so the discussion element will, I hope, not be too big here. But it's true, guidelines are definately needed. Also try not to use 'I' on the main page, it's supposed to represent WikiVinaya or WikiVinaya Guidelines, not the personal opinions of contributors. When discussing these guidelines it's ok to use I but not in the actual document. I will also move 'Goal and Contents' to a seperate page, and make the part that appears on the front page just an introduction. I turned your piece on the 7 vinayarecencions into an actual article, so now we have 4 already! ;-) BTW I also left it on the Vinaya section, so it's here two times now. greetings DJti 03:51, 1 July 2006 (EDT)

P.S. I don't think the Abhidhamma said much on Vinaya, so it doesn't have too much to do with WikiVinaya, no? P.S. 2 The main page shouldn't mention 'internal wikivinaya' isues, it's a place for readers mainly, 'Community portal' is the place for editors.