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==Sense of Team-newcomer/oldtimers and WE== | ==Sense of Team-newcomer/oldtimers and WE== | ||
| - | 36 rweisbac, 19:48 (12.05): Sorry I'm Richard too Welcome (*NOTICE IN S3 HOW HE WELCOMES NEWCOMER) | + | 36 rweisbac, 19:48 (12.05): Sorry I'm Richard too Welcome (*NOTICE IN S3 HOW HE WELCOMES NEWCOMER) |
| - | 72 moderatorS, 20:01 (12.05): some of the others from last time may join us, but why don't I make sure Meet knows what we're doing. | + | 72 moderatorS, 20:01 (12.05): some of the others from last time may join us, but why don't I make sure Meet knows what we're doing. |
| - | 76 moderatorS, 20:03 (12.05): so, Meet, the general idea is that we give you a simple environment to explore and invent math questions that you then try to answer. | + | 76 moderatorS, 20:03 (12.05): so, Meet, the general idea is that we give you a simple environment to explore |
| - | 77 moderatorS, 20:03 (12.05): We don't grade you or judge you. | + | and invent math questions that you then try to answer. |
| - | 78 moderatorS, 20:04 (12.05): WE just want to see if groups can have fun online doing math with our support. | + | 77 moderatorS, 20:03 (12.05): We don't grade you or judge you. |
| - | 79 moderatorS, 20:04 (12.05): Rweisbac, do you want to add something? | + | 78 moderatorS, 20:04 (12.05): WE just want to see if groups can have fun online doing math with our support. |
| + | 79 moderatorS, 20:04 (12.05): Rweisbac, do you want to add something? | ||
==Community (generators of ideas = other groups)== | ==Community (generators of ideas = other groups)== | ||
| - | 97 moderatorS, 20:08 (12.05): Let me share some of the questions that other groups came up with. | + | 97 moderatorS, 20:08 (12.05): Let me share some of the questions that other groups came up with. |
| - | 110 rweisbac, 20:10 (12.05): These are out questions | + | 110 rweisbac, 20:10 (12.05): These are out questions |
| - | 111 rweisbac, 20:10 (12.05): I mean our | + | 111 rweisbac, 20:10 (12.05): I mean our |
==Continuity: up to the team== | ==Continuity: up to the team== | ||
| - | 109 meet_the_fangs, 20:10 (12.05): so we answer them? | + | 109 meet_the_fangs, 20:10 (12.05): so we answer them? |
| - | 112 moderatorS, 20:10 (12.05): you can or you can invent new questions | + | 112 moderatorS, 20:10 (12.05): you can or you can invent new questions |
| - | 119 moderatorS, 20:12 (12.05): invent new questions or try to answer questions you already have. | + | 119 moderatorS, 20:12 (12.05): invent new questions or try to answer questions you already have. |
==Oldtimer spokesperson to decide which perspective== | ==Oldtimer spokesperson to decide which perspective== | ||
| - | 156 moderatorS, 20:17 (12.05): Keep in mind that for the "people" of this world, they don't have the same experience you do. They think about everything in terms of the lines of the grid. | + | 156 moderatorS, 20:17 (12.05): Keep in mind that for the "people" of this world, they don't have the same experience you do. |
| - | 157 moderatorS, 20:18 (12.05): they can't draw lines except along the grid. | + | They think about everything in terms of the lines of the grid. |
| - | 158 meet_the_fangs, 20:19 (12.05): oops | + | 157 moderatorS, 20:18 (12.05): they can't draw lines except along the grid. |
| - | 159 rweisbac, 20:20 (12.05): so this is a cartesian plaine. That line is the hypotenuse of a right triangle point a is at (-4,4) and point b is at (3,-4) | + | 158 meet_the_fangs, 20:19 (12.05): oops |
| - | 160 meet_the_fangs, 20:20 (12.05): okay | + | 159 rweisbac, 20:20 (12.05): so this is a cartesian plaine. That line is the hypotenuse of a right triangle point a |
| - | 161 meet_the_fangs, 20:20 (12.05): now we hafta adjust our grid.... | + | is at (-4,4) and point b is at (3,-4) |
| - | 162 meet_the_fangs, 20:21 (12.05): okay so... | + | 160 meet_the_fangs, 20:20 (12.05): okay |
| - | 163 rweisbac, 20:21 (12.05): We can find the distance between the two points | + | 161 meet_the_fangs, 20:20 (12.05): now we hafta adjust our grid.... |
| - | 164 meet_the_fangs, 20:21 (12.05): diagonally | + | 162 meet_the_fangs, 20:21 (12.05): okay so... |
| - | 165 meet_the_fangs, 20:21 (12.05): or on the line? | + | 163 rweisbac, 20:21 (12.05): We can find the distance between the two points |
| - | 166 rweisbac, 20:21 (12.05): Diagiaonally | + | 164 meet_the_fangs, 20:21 (12.05): diagonally |
| - | 167 meet_the_fangs, 20:21 (12.05): okay | + | 165 meet_the_fangs, 20:21 (12.05): or on the line? |
| + | 166 rweisbac, 20:21 (12.05): Diagiaonally | ||
| + | 167 meet_the_fangs, 20:21 (12.05): okay | ||
==Stuck, same "activity" or different== | ==Stuck, same "activity" or different== | ||
| - | 242 rweisbac, 20:38 (12.05): were stuck | + | 242 rweisbac, 20:38 (12.05): were stuck |
| - | 243 meet_the_fangs, 20:38 (12.05): wanna do a different problem? | + | 243 meet_the_fangs, 20:38 (12.05): wanna do a different problem? |
| - | 244 rweisbac, 20:38 (12.05): ok | + | 244 rweisbac, 20:38 (12.05): ok |
| - | 245 meet_the_fangs, 20:38 (12.05): erase everything? | + | 245 meet_the_fangs, 20:38 (12.05): erase everything? |
| - | 246 rweisbac, 20:39 (12.05): NO | + | 246 rweisbac, 20:39 (12.05): NO |
| - | 247 meet_the_fangs, 20:39 (12.05): lol okay | + | 247 meet_the_fangs, 20:39 (12.05): lol okay |
| - | 248 rweisbac, 20:39 (12.05): well keep it it might be useful | + | 248 rweisbac, 20:39 (12.05): well keep it it might be useful |
| - | 249 meet_the_fangs, 20:39 (12.05): i copied another grid | + | 249 meet_the_fangs, 20:39 (12.05): i copied another grid |
| - | 250 meet_the_fangs, 20:39 (12.05): where do we put it? | + | 250 meet_the_fangs, 20:39 (12.05): where do we put it? |
| - | 251 rweisbac, 20:40 (12.05): no keep it wee need the settings that we already have and it won't get in the way | + | 251 rweisbac, 20:40 (12.05): no keep it wee need the settings that we already have and it won't get in the way |
==Counting vs. Formula/Pattern? I am not good at Formula/Pattern, but maybe doing counting will get us closer?== | ==Counting vs. Formula/Pattern? I am not good at Formula/Pattern, but maybe doing counting will get us closer?== | ||
| - | 292 meet_the_fangs, 20:50 (12.05): imma make the line AB a different color | + | 292 meet_the_fangs, 20:50 (12.05): imma make the line AB a different color |
| - | 293 rweisbac, 20:50 (12.05): It is not efficient to just sit there and count | + | 293 rweisbac, 20:50 (12.05): It is not efficient to just sit there and count |
| - | 294 meet_the_fangs, 20:50 (12.05): true | + | 294 meet_the_fangs, 20:50 (12.05): true |
| - | 295 meet_the_fangs, 20:50 (12.05): well... | + | 295 meet_the_fangs, 20:50 (12.05): well... |
| - | ... | + | ... |
| - | 303 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): i have an organized way of counting | + | 303 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): i have an organized way of counting |
| - | 304 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): but that's not going ot get anywhre FAST | + | 304 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): but that's not going ot get anywhre FAST |
| - | 305 rweisbac, 20:52 (12.05): ok | + | 305 rweisbac, 20:52 (12.05): ok |
| - | 306 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): oh wait nevermind | + | 306 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): oh wait nevermind |
| - | 307 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): darn it | + | 307 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): darn it |
| - | 308 rweisbac, 20:52 (12.05): ok | + | 308 rweisbac, 20:52 (12.05): ok |
| - | 309 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): actually | + | 309 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): actually |
| - | 310 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): i do have anorganized way | + | 310 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): i do have anorganized way |
| - | 311 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): ignore the top half | + | 311 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): ignore the top half |
| - | 312 rweisbac, 20:53 (12.05): great lets see it!!! | + | 312 rweisbac, 20:53 (12.05): great lets see it!!! |
| - | 313 meet_the_fangs, 20:53 (12.05): cuz we're going to x2 our results on the bottom half | + | 313 meet_the_fangs, 20:53 (12.05): cuz we're going to x2 our results on the bottom half |
| - | ... | + | ... |
| - | 317 meet_the_fangs, 20:53 (12.05): then, we can have 5 more paths of the same pattern | + | 317 meet_the_fangs, 20:53 (12.05): then, we can have 5 more paths of the same pattern |
| - | 318 rweisbac, 20:53 (12.05): ok | + | 318 rweisbac, 20:53 (12.05): ok |
| - | 319 meet_the_fangs, 20:53 (12.05): etc. | + | 319 meet_the_fangs, 20:53 (12.05): etc. |
| - | 320 meet_the_fangs, 20:53 (12.05): and then... | + | 320 meet_the_fangs, 20:53 (12.05): and then... |
| - | 321 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): oh | + | 321 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): oh |
| - | 322 rweisbac, 20:54 (12.05): what | + | 322 rweisbac, 20:54 (12.05): what |
| - | 323 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): i have an algebraic way to od this | + | 323 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): i have an algebraic way to od this |
| - | 324 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): i just thought of it right now | + | 324 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): i just thought of it right now |
| - | 325 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): each "step" | + | 325 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): each "step" |
| - | 326 rweisbac, 20:54 (12.05): YAAAAY algebra | + | 326 rweisbac, 20:54 (12.05): YAAAAY algebra |
| - | 327 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): has a max of 3 places to travel | + | 327 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): has a max of 3 places to travel |
| - | 328 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): this is like a permutation | + | 328 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): this is like a permutation |
==Identity -> Managing Participation== | ==Identity -> Managing Participation== | ||
| - | 301 meet_the_fangs, 20:51 (12.05): im not good at this stuff sorry | + | 301 meet_the_fangs, 20:51 (12.05): im not good at this stuff sorry |
| - | 302 rweisbac, 20:51 (12.05): Nether am I | + | 302 rweisbac, 20:51 (12.05): Nether am I |
==Class vs. VMT spaces== | ==Class vs. VMT spaces== | ||
| - | 329 rweisbac, 20:55 (12.05): Were are just going over this in class | + | 329 rweisbac, 20:55 (12.05): Were are just going over this in class |
==Once a shared perspective, coordination of action (parallel or together)== | ==Once a shared perspective, coordination of action (parallel or together)== | ||
| - | 358 meet_the_fangs, 20:58 (12.05): we can both branch off together | + | 358 meet_the_fangs, 20:58 (12.05): we can both branch off together |
==Projecting! Giving Up== | ==Projecting! Giving Up== | ||
| - | 363 meet_the_fangs, 20:59 (12.05): oh... this is gonna get really messy | + | 363 meet_the_fangs, 20:59 (12.05): oh... this is gonna get really messy |
| - | 364 rweisbac, 20:59 (12.05): right | + | 364 rweisbac, 20:59 (12.05): right |
| - | 365 meet_the_fangs, 20:59 (12.05): maybe not actually | + | 365 meet_the_fangs, 20:59 (12.05): maybe not actually |
| - | 366 rweisbac, 20:59 (12.05): it is it is @: Message 363: To whole message | + | 366 rweisbac, 20:59 (12.05): it is it is @: Message 363: To whole message |
| - | 367 meet_the_fangs, 20:59 (12.05): :-/ | + | 367 meet_the_fangs, 20:59 (12.05): :-/ |
| - | 368 meet_the_fangs, 20:59 (12.05): hmm.. | + | 368 meet_the_fangs, 20:59 (12.05): hmm.. |
| - | 369 meet_the_fangs, 20:59 (12.05): got any other ideas? | + | 369 meet_the_fangs, 20:59 (12.05): got any other ideas? |
| - | 370 rweisbac, 21:00 (12.05): nope | + | 370 rweisbac, 21:00 (12.05): nope |
| - | 371 meet_the_fangs, 21:00 (12.05): im eating dinner soon | + | 371 meet_the_fangs, 21:00 (12.05): im eating dinner soon |
| - | 372 meet_the_fangs, 21:00 (12.05): when does this end? | + | 372 meet_the_fangs, 21:00 (12.05): when does this end? |
Revision as of 13:09, 24 May 2007
Team 1, Session 2: Notes
Sense of Team-newcomer/oldtimers and WE
36 rweisbac, 19:48 (12.05): Sorry I'm Richard too Welcome (*NOTICE IN S3 HOW HE WELCOMES NEWCOMER)
72 moderatorS, 20:01 (12.05): some of the others from last time may join us, but why don't I make sure Meet knows what we're doing.
76 moderatorS, 20:03 (12.05): so, Meet, the general idea is that we give you a simple environment to explore
and invent math questions that you then try to answer.
77 moderatorS, 20:03 (12.05): We don't grade you or judge you.
78 moderatorS, 20:04 (12.05): WE just want to see if groups can have fun online doing math with our support.
79 moderatorS, 20:04 (12.05): Rweisbac, do you want to add something?
Community (generators of ideas = other groups)
97 moderatorS, 20:08 (12.05): Let me share some of the questions that other groups came up with. 110 rweisbac, 20:10 (12.05): These are out questions 111 rweisbac, 20:10 (12.05): I mean our
Continuity: up to the team
109 meet_the_fangs, 20:10 (12.05): so we answer them? 112 moderatorS, 20:10 (12.05): you can or you can invent new questions 119 moderatorS, 20:12 (12.05): invent new questions or try to answer questions you already have.
Oldtimer spokesperson to decide which perspective
156 moderatorS, 20:17 (12.05): Keep in mind that for the "people" of this world, they don't have the same experience you do.
They think about everything in terms of the lines of the grid.
157 moderatorS, 20:18 (12.05): they can't draw lines except along the grid.
158 meet_the_fangs, 20:19 (12.05): oops
159 rweisbac, 20:20 (12.05): so this is a cartesian plaine. That line is the hypotenuse of a right triangle point a
is at (-4,4) and point b is at (3,-4)
160 meet_the_fangs, 20:20 (12.05): okay
161 meet_the_fangs, 20:20 (12.05): now we hafta adjust our grid....
162 meet_the_fangs, 20:21 (12.05): okay so...
163 rweisbac, 20:21 (12.05): We can find the distance between the two points
164 meet_the_fangs, 20:21 (12.05): diagonally
165 meet_the_fangs, 20:21 (12.05): or on the line?
166 rweisbac, 20:21 (12.05): Diagiaonally
167 meet_the_fangs, 20:21 (12.05): okay
Stuck, same "activity" or different
242 rweisbac, 20:38 (12.05): were stuck 243 meet_the_fangs, 20:38 (12.05): wanna do a different problem? 244 rweisbac, 20:38 (12.05): ok 245 meet_the_fangs, 20:38 (12.05): erase everything? 246 rweisbac, 20:39 (12.05): NO 247 meet_the_fangs, 20:39 (12.05): lol okay 248 rweisbac, 20:39 (12.05): well keep it it might be useful 249 meet_the_fangs, 20:39 (12.05): i copied another grid 250 meet_the_fangs, 20:39 (12.05): where do we put it? 251 rweisbac, 20:40 (12.05): no keep it wee need the settings that we already have and it won't get in the way
Counting vs. Formula/Pattern? I am not good at Formula/Pattern, but maybe doing counting will get us closer?
292 meet_the_fangs, 20:50 (12.05): imma make the line AB a different color 293 rweisbac, 20:50 (12.05): It is not efficient to just sit there and count 294 meet_the_fangs, 20:50 (12.05): true 295 meet_the_fangs, 20:50 (12.05): well... ... 303 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): i have an organized way of counting 304 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): but that's not going ot get anywhre FAST 305 rweisbac, 20:52 (12.05): ok 306 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): oh wait nevermind 307 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): darn it 308 rweisbac, 20:52 (12.05): ok 309 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): actually 310 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): i do have anorganized way 311 meet_the_fangs, 20:52 (12.05): ignore the top half 312 rweisbac, 20:53 (12.05): great lets see it!!! 313 meet_the_fangs, 20:53 (12.05): cuz we're going to x2 our results on the bottom half ... 317 meet_the_fangs, 20:53 (12.05): then, we can have 5 more paths of the same pattern 318 rweisbac, 20:53 (12.05): ok 319 meet_the_fangs, 20:53 (12.05): etc. 320 meet_the_fangs, 20:53 (12.05): and then... 321 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): oh 322 rweisbac, 20:54 (12.05): what 323 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): i have an algebraic way to od this 324 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): i just thought of it right now 325 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): each "step" 326 rweisbac, 20:54 (12.05): YAAAAY algebra 327 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): has a max of 3 places to travel 328 meet_the_fangs, 20:54 (12.05): this is like a permutation
Identity -> Managing Participation
301 meet_the_fangs, 20:51 (12.05): im not good at this stuff sorry 302 rweisbac, 20:51 (12.05): Nether am I
Class vs. VMT spaces
329 rweisbac, 20:55 (12.05): Were are just going over this in class
Once a shared perspective, coordination of action (parallel or together)
358 meet_the_fangs, 20:58 (12.05): we can both branch off together
Projecting! Giving Up
363 meet_the_fangs, 20:59 (12.05): oh... this is gonna get really messy 364 rweisbac, 20:59 (12.05): right 365 meet_the_fangs, 20:59 (12.05): maybe not actually 366 rweisbac, 20:59 (12.05): it is it is @: Message 363: To whole message 367 meet_the_fangs, 20:59 (12.05): :-/ 368 meet_the_fangs, 20:59 (12.05): hmm.. 369 meet_the_fangs, 20:59 (12.05): got any other ideas? 370 rweisbac, 21:00 (12.05): nope 371 meet_the_fangs, 21:00 (12.05): im eating dinner soon 372 meet_the_fangs, 21:00 (12.05): when does this end?
