Talk:Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu

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Current revision as of 19:57, 19 August 2011

I would just like to voice my disapproval at the notion of a BJJ blackbelt being defeated by a collegiate wrestler without submission training.

That is all. : )

Fletcher Peninsula

PS: And yes I know this is a late reply.

You do realize we are talking about 325 lbs man vs 125 lbs woman right? a 325 pound man with a good amount of grappling experience such a superb college wrestler should be able to handle a 125 pound woman in a grappling match even if said woman is a black belt in BJJ.--Yihman1 18:38, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Also where did it say Tyrone has no submission training? --Yihman1 18:42, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Have we all forgotten that the Disembodied Spirit increases the victim's strength due to the fact that it is a supernatural being? Besides weight or being outnumbered isn't always a factor when it comes to martial arts. Sure she may be 125 lbs but with enough experience and training she could take on someone as big as Andre the Giant. --deadfishv

You do realize we are talking about 325 lbs man vs 125 lbs woman right? a 325 pound man with a good amount of grappling experience
such a superb college wrestler should be able to handle a 125 pound woman in a grappling match even if said woman is a black belt 
in BJJ.

Yeah I was just acting humorously about the situation (that´s why I had the smiley), pretending a BJJ practitioner would win no matter what the conditions where. Just some old school BJJ elitism you know? : ) no biggie. But she could have rolled for a toe-hold or something! : )

Also where did it say Tyrone has no submission training? --Yihman1 18:42, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

I just assumed freestyle wrestlers doesn't use any moves that could be translated into submissions in free grappling. Except maybe neck cranks or wrestling guillotines (twisters in BJJ).

Besides weight or being outnumbered isn't always a factor when it comes to martial arts. Sure she may be 125 lbs but with enough 
experience and training she could take on someone as big as Andre the Giant. --deadfishv

Nah, unless you´re extremely lucky I´ll have to disagree. You could be Marcelo Garcia and not be able to defeat/submit someone with a 200 pounds advantage on you if that person has grappling experience, is ripped as hell, while you´re are not. You wouldn´t be able to finish limb-locks due to the immense strenght diffrence. Chokes would just be slapped right off, and even if you where to sink a choke in I highly doubt you wouldn´t be able to generate enough power to choke someone out due to the highly developt neck muscles.