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| + | *[[User talk:Platypus/Archive3]] | ||
| + | *[[User talk:Platypus/Archive4]] | ||
| + | *[[User talk:Platypus/Archive5]] | ||
| + | *[[User talk:Platypus/Archive6]] | ||
| + | *[[User talk:Platypus/Archive7]] | ||
| + | *[[User talk:Platypus/Archive8]] | ||
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| - | = | + | == What measure is an Underage == |
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| - | + | While it is of course a bit obvious that 6 or 10 is underage, what is the lower measure allowed on the site to not be considered underage? | |
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| - | + | While most countries make it illegal sexual '''images''' of women under 18, the age of consent varies, and with it the age you could '''write''' about probably does too. | |
| + | The most common age of consent under 18 is 16, Japan seems to allow 14, last I checked my own country was 12, which surprised me, not taking it in consideration but thought important to mention. | ||
| - | + | Either way my point is, at what age is it allowed to be written about without breaking the "no underage sexual content" rule? | |
| + | (I did search the archives, but could not find it. At best I found someone asking the same thing on Archive5, but it seems to have gone unanswered for them too. | ||
| - | + | - [[User:WolfDFang|WolfDFang]] 12:55, 28 July 2021 (UTC) | |
| + | == Adding Images == | ||
| - | + | Hey, I'm not sure if I'm asking in the right format, but is there no way to add an image in pages anymore? I tried the method in the tutorial of adding a link but all I get is a captcha circle. Sorry again if this question is in the wrong area/format! | |
| - | + | Edit - If it's not too much trouble, would you be able to send me a link to one of these new pages? So that I can hopefully replicate it? But if you're busy don't worry about it, I'll keep an eye out myself :) | |
| - | + | --[[User:Thevoid|Thevoid]] 15:69, 10 July 2021 (UTC) | |
| - | + | == Ban Tr0ll == | |
| + | Hey Plat, just wanted to tell ya that the user Tr0ll seems to have just redone his spam on the main page and who knows where else. That includes your talk page. I've been trying to reverse it wherever I can, but unless this person is banned, they'll likely just keep doing this nonsense. | ||
| - | + | Edit: Currently working on getting some of the conversations that were deleted from this page into the Archive 8 page and keeping some of the more recent stuff back on this page. I tried to just undo the troll's post, but got hit with the external link error. | |
| - | + | --[[User:Durzan|Durzan]] 03:02, 1 May 2021 (UTC) | |
| - | + | ---- | |
| + | == Alternative home for Smutty? == | ||
| + | Do you have Smutty Sex Romp up on a different site, P? If not, have you considered relocating? [[User:Anedwcan|Anedwcan]] 13:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC) | ||
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| - | + | I looked a little further into that Miraheze wikifarm Durzan recommended; seems like they might actually allow a site like this. The most similar (to CYOS) existing site I found was Star Wars Erotica Wiki (swew.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page) (EDIT: and it's not so similar as I thought; it links to a separate CYOA style star wars erotica wiki, and I confused the two, but it's still a decent example of a markedly adult site hosted on the Miraheze platform). And a few years ago someone made a request for a Yiff wiki that was approved, so I can't see them turning down a CYOS style site (you can see the discussion about the Yiff wiki here-> meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive_2#Not_Safe_for_Work_Content_Policy.3F). | |
| - | + | Main NSFW content rules seem to be that | |
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| - | + | 1. Everything has to be legal in Netherlands, U.S., and U.K., (so rule 1 still stands, since underage sex stories are a legally grey area at best) and | |
| - | + | 2. No pornographic images of real people (drawings and 3D renders seem to be fine) | |
| - | I' | + | It's possible I've missed something else important in the Content Policy, so you might want to have a look at it for yourself (meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy). Additionally, Miraheze is free and ad-free. |
| - | + | Regarding the transfer of stories, the 'import' function would almost definitely be available to Bureaucrats (MediaWiki permission defaults even let Admins use it). So moving Smutty Sex Romp and Rampage would be very possible, if time consuming (as only small xml files can be imported using 'import,' around 100 pages in size). I'll make another set of Smutty Sex Romp xml files suitable for transferring this way soon. I'd be happy to help you import them if you'd like. | |
| - | + | I know you said you weren't considering relocating right now, but maybe some of this will be useful in the future. Seems like RobKohr has no plan to fix the issues any time soon (editthis.info/wiki/User_talk:RobKohr#Not_dead). | |
| - | + | If you don't mind my asking, why are you so hesitant to relocate? | |
| - | + | --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 17:34, 8 August 2020 (UTC) | |
| - | + | :Oh, that makes sense. You were working on it quite a bit earlier this year though. I figured you'd stopped because of how ungodly slow the website has become, and I hadn't considered that you might have lost interest. | |
| - | + | :So far as my understanding goes, you'd still have plenty of ability to keep litter out on the other farm. If you create a new wiki on Miraheze, you'll have the Bureaucrat user rights. And it would be ''your'' wiki: you could write up the rules any way you wanted to, with even more power to enforce them. If you were to switch over, you would not have to worry about any loss of content moderating authority. | |
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| - | + | :And trying it out has almost no risk. It's possible that they won't allow smut on their servers, and the worst case where they decide not to host the wiki, nothing really changes. We're just stuck on editthis, with one more possibilty ticked off the list. | |
| - | + | :Of course there is no real urgency as far as moving is concerned, but it would be great to read and edit Smutty (and any other stories that would be moved over) on a website that works. I'll stop buzzing in your ear about it, but please give Miraheze some consideration and let me know if you change your mind. | |
| - | + | :--[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] ([[User talk:Pickles|Talk]]) 02:22, 9 August 2020 (UTC) | |
| - | == | + | == Am I doing this right? == |
| - | + | I probably should have done a little more lurking before contributing to your story. Smutty Sex Romp is a wonderful work, and I wanted (want) to help add to it. Anyway, I might have jumped the gun a little. I made an account and added a few contributions before realizing Smutty Sex Romp was your work, and that you have perhaps higher standards than I can meet right now (knowing very little about creative writing, formatting a wiki, and whatnot). The first place I contributed was in your story, when I should've started in the sandbox. | |
| - | + | I got a little carried away. Not that seven pages is insane, but I figured I should stop here and make sure what I've added is okay. It's easier to delete or fix seven pages than seventy (especially with the dial-up speed this site is running at). And since it's your story it's a-okay with me if you decide to delete all of my additions, no questions asked. I like what you've got going here, and I don't want to throw ants in your cereal. | |
| - | + | --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 06:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC) | |
| - | + | :Hello again! I was looking through the '''[[:Category:Pages Requiring Attention|Pages Requiring Attention]]''', and all of them had a 'This database did not find the text of a page..." error message. I figured you'd deleted or moved them, but for whatever reason the category stuck. I blanked [[Paladin/Caladbolg18|this one]] to see if that would remove the category stamp. Of course it did, but now the page doesn't have a category (which I've heard annoys you). I think I want you to delete [[Paladin/Caladbolg18]] for me, if it's not too much trouble. Is it normal that moved/deleted pages keep categories like this, or is this something else? | |
| - | + | :I've been wondering about those [[Special:SpecialPages|maintenance reports]] as well. I don't want you to go out of your way if the answer is complicated, but do they work at all? The [[Special:UncategorizedPages|uncategorized pages]] and [[Special:DeadendPages|deadend pages]] reports would be handy if they actually updated. | |
| - | + | :Also, do you have a category for delete requests? I'm sorry if this isn't the place to ask for them. | |
| - | + | :In any case, thanks for helping me out! --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 17:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC) | |
| - | + | P.S. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly on my last message! I'm glad I've got your seal of approval. | |
| + | P.P.S. Is it just me or is the site loading faster today? | ||
| - | + | == Found an ad == | |
| + | [[User:Netconnekt|Netconnekt]]'s user page is an ad. I saw you deleted the dubaitours thing, so I figure this sort of account is not allowed. | ||
| + | --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 01:09, 25 May 2020 (UTC) | ||
| - | + | [[User:Reviewruk|Reviewruk]]'s user page is ''also'' an ad (and a fishy service if you ask me). I wonder if we're on some list of good wikis to advertise on. Interestingly enough, another company has made an account but not posted a link (yet). [[User:Lwayservice|Lwayservice]] is a net dev company (akin to Netconnekt), but they didn't create any pages. | |
| + | --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 03:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC) | ||
| - | + | [[User:Woodframe|Woodframe]]'s new page [[User talk:Woodframe]] is an ad. First paragraph is so deeply introspective that I almost didn't realise it was an ad. --[[User:Pickles|Pickles]] 18:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC) | |
| + | [[User:Ingdarenth|Ingdarenth]]'s user page is ''also'' an ad. [[User:Leonel Sohns|Leonel Sohns]] 09:06, 8 July 2021 (UTC) | ||
| - | + | [[User:Fivesdigital|Fivesdigital]]'s user page is ''also'' an ad. [[User:Leonel Sohns|Leonel Sohns]] 11:33, 3 August 2021 (UTC) | |
| - | + | [[User:Harrygood9898|Harrygood9898]]'s user page is ''also'' an ad. [[User:Leonel Sohns|Leonel Sohns]] 14:14, 10 August 2021 (UTC) | |
| - | + | == Red Options == | |
| - | + | I'm not sure if it's been brought up before. I've been lurking for a little as an anon and wanted to start contributing to stories: some of which have red options nobody has fleshed out (in some cases for well over a year as far as I can tell). Do red options that haven't been written belong to the person, or are they free game to make into a page? | |
| - | + | == Fredhot16 == | |
| - | + | Yo. I'm thinking of coming back to this website but not fully until I have something to write about. Just curious: what happened to the edit button on the Main Page? | |
| - | + | -October, 15, 2021, 02:09. | |
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| - | == | + | == Thanks for the deletes == |
| - | + | Hi Platypus. Thanks for deleting the pages I blanked. I was about to ask if you would do that. :) (I assume you looked and saw I was the only contributor.) [[User:DirtyOldMan|DirtyOldMan]] 20:43, 16 March 2022 (UTC) | |
| + | == Having a problem creating an account == | ||
| - | + | Hello. Obviously, I have an account on Create Your Own Story, but I want to create an account on the main editthis.info page. I keep trying, but the same thing happens every time. I put in the username and the password. I made sure that the passwords were the same. I did the captcha. But every time I go to create the account, I get an error message: "Could not open socket in ./common/recaptcha/recaptchalib.php". I don't know who else to tell about this, so here I am. If you don't know anything about this, then could you please tell someone else who does. Thank you. | |
| - | + | - [[User:TheFreddyFazbear54|TheFreddyFazbear54]] 13:57, 30th July 2022 (UTC) | |
| - | + | == Final touches to the Tutorial == | |
| - | + | Hello. I was poking around the wiki and noticed that the Tutorial needed a bit of a clean-up, so I've tried my best. Unfortunately, the [[how_to_create_a_page|page creation]] page is protected and there's something I think would be a very helpful addition. The addition and the edits I made are on the [[Talk:Tutorial|Tutorial Discussion]], but feel free to change anything that you want. I figured you were the admin and might be able to edit the protected page. Thanks. | |
| - | + | - [[User:TheFreddyFazbear54|TheFreddyFazbear54]] 22:05, 31 July 2022 (UTC) | |
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| - | + | - [[User:TheGreenRaider|TheGreenRaider]] 13:47, 26, Dec 2022(UTC) | |
| - | + | == Adopting other Interactives from other sites == | |
| - | + | Hi. I been looking at the number of stories, both kid-friendly and XXX-rated and I been thinking of allowing other content from other sites, both dead or infinantus-haitus and allowing both the original creators and contributors from those sites to post here. I know of a couple of good adult-heavy interactives from that bully site Writing.com that would struggle but accept the transfer. Personally, this was my second-best interactive site before the wacko admin of Writing.com committed a free-user genocide and banned everyone else from entering the site, to mine crypto, I guess? | |
| - | + | - [[User:TheGreenRaider|TheGreenRaider]] 14:27, 26, Dec 2022(UTC) | |
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| - | == | + | == Is this website dead? == |
| - | + | Is there any consistent updates of storys and active members? | |
| - | + | -------------------- | |
| + | The link I changed didn't match up with the continuation of the the story path | ||
| - | == | + | *[[Go find Jenny to apologize.]] |
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| + | That's after he just agreed to only be with the daughter but the mom then rejected him in the same path so the two paths conflict? | ||
| + | |||
| + | *[[Agree to Jenny's terms.]] | ||
| + | |||
| + | Is contradicts this path | ||
| + | |||
| + | *[[Deny that you were looking at Jenny's cleavage.]] | ||
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| + | == Could you rename some pages == | ||
| + | Hey, I was wondering if you could rename a few pages? Specifically I was wondering if you could rename these pages:[[Josh._An_18-year_old,_brown-haired_football_player]], [[Miranda._A_17-year-old_brown-haired_girl]], and [[Chelsea._The_36_yo,_blonde-haired_volleyball-playing_mother_of_the_3_kids_above]]. | ||
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| + | Specifically I'd like them to be renamed by increasing the ages of Miranda and Josh by a year and change blonde-haired to brunette. | ||
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| + | - [[User:v4n1ll4l0v3r|v4n1ll4l0v3r]] | ||
Current revision as of 07:21, 11 October 2023
Since this page has become rather cluttered, I've moved old discussions to the archive pages below. Feel free to leave new messages here. I'll get back to you ASAP!
- User talk:Platypus/Archive1
- User talk:Platypus/Archive2
- User talk:Platypus/Archive3
- User talk:Platypus/Archive4
- User talk:Platypus/Archive5
- User talk:Platypus/Archive6
- User talk:Platypus/Archive7
- User talk:Platypus/Archive8
What measure is an Underage
While it is of course a bit obvious that 6 or 10 is underage, what is the lower measure allowed on the site to not be considered underage?
While most countries make it illegal sexual images of women under 18, the age of consent varies, and with it the age you could write about probably does too. The most common age of consent under 18 is 16, Japan seems to allow 14, last I checked my own country was 12, which surprised me, not taking it in consideration but thought important to mention.
Either way my point is, at what age is it allowed to be written about without breaking the "no underage sexual content" rule? (I did search the archives, but could not find it. At best I found someone asking the same thing on Archive5, but it seems to have gone unanswered for them too.
- WolfDFang 12:55, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Adding Images
Hey, I'm not sure if I'm asking in the right format, but is there no way to add an image in pages anymore? I tried the method in the tutorial of adding a link but all I get is a captcha circle. Sorry again if this question is in the wrong area/format!
Edit - If it's not too much trouble, would you be able to send me a link to one of these new pages? So that I can hopefully replicate it? But if you're busy don't worry about it, I'll keep an eye out myself :)
--Thevoid 15:69, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
Ban Tr0ll
Hey Plat, just wanted to tell ya that the user Tr0ll seems to have just redone his spam on the main page and who knows where else. That includes your talk page. I've been trying to reverse it wherever I can, but unless this person is banned, they'll likely just keep doing this nonsense.
Edit: Currently working on getting some of the conversations that were deleted from this page into the Archive 8 page and keeping some of the more recent stuff back on this page. I tried to just undo the troll's post, but got hit with the external link error.
--Durzan 03:02, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
Alternative home for Smutty?
Do you have Smutty Sex Romp up on a different site, P? If not, have you considered relocating? Anedwcan 13:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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I looked a little further into that Miraheze wikifarm Durzan recommended; seems like they might actually allow a site like this. The most similar (to CYOS) existing site I found was Star Wars Erotica Wiki (swew.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page) (EDIT: and it's not so similar as I thought; it links to a separate CYOA style star wars erotica wiki, and I confused the two, but it's still a decent example of a markedly adult site hosted on the Miraheze platform). And a few years ago someone made a request for a Yiff wiki that was approved, so I can't see them turning down a CYOS style site (you can see the discussion about the Yiff wiki here-> meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive_2#Not_Safe_for_Work_Content_Policy.3F).
Main NSFW content rules seem to be that
1. Everything has to be legal in Netherlands, U.S., and U.K., (so rule 1 still stands, since underage sex stories are a legally grey area at best) and
2. No pornographic images of real people (drawings and 3D renders seem to be fine)
It's possible I've missed something else important in the Content Policy, so you might want to have a look at it for yourself (meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy). Additionally, Miraheze is free and ad-free.
Regarding the transfer of stories, the 'import' function would almost definitely be available to Bureaucrats (MediaWiki permission defaults even let Admins use it). So moving Smutty Sex Romp and Rampage would be very possible, if time consuming (as only small xml files can be imported using 'import,' around 100 pages in size). I'll make another set of Smutty Sex Romp xml files suitable for transferring this way soon. I'd be happy to help you import them if you'd like.
I know you said you weren't considering relocating right now, but maybe some of this will be useful in the future. Seems like RobKohr has no plan to fix the issues any time soon (editthis.info/wiki/User_talk:RobKohr#Not_dead).
If you don't mind my asking, why are you so hesitant to relocate?
--Pickles (Talk) 17:34, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
- Oh, that makes sense. You were working on it quite a bit earlier this year though. I figured you'd stopped because of how ungodly slow the website has become, and I hadn't considered that you might have lost interest.
- So far as my understanding goes, you'd still have plenty of ability to keep litter out on the other farm. If you create a new wiki on Miraheze, you'll have the Bureaucrat user rights. And it would be your wiki: you could write up the rules any way you wanted to, with even more power to enforce them. If you were to switch over, you would not have to worry about any loss of content moderating authority.
- And trying it out has almost no risk. It's possible that they won't allow smut on their servers, and the worst case where they decide not to host the wiki, nothing really changes. We're just stuck on editthis, with one more possibilty ticked off the list.
- Of course there is no real urgency as far as moving is concerned, but it would be great to read and edit Smutty (and any other stories that would be moved over) on a website that works. I'll stop buzzing in your ear about it, but please give Miraheze some consideration and let me know if you change your mind.
Am I doing this right?
I probably should have done a little more lurking before contributing to your story. Smutty Sex Romp is a wonderful work, and I wanted (want) to help add to it. Anyway, I might have jumped the gun a little. I made an account and added a few contributions before realizing Smutty Sex Romp was your work, and that you have perhaps higher standards than I can meet right now (knowing very little about creative writing, formatting a wiki, and whatnot). The first place I contributed was in your story, when I should've started in the sandbox.
I got a little carried away. Not that seven pages is insane, but I figured I should stop here and make sure what I've added is okay. It's easier to delete or fix seven pages than seventy (especially with the dial-up speed this site is running at). And since it's your story it's a-okay with me if you decide to delete all of my additions, no questions asked. I like what you've got going here, and I don't want to throw ants in your cereal.
--Pickles 06:00, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello again! I was looking through the Pages Requiring Attention, and all of them had a 'This database did not find the text of a page..." error message. I figured you'd deleted or moved them, but for whatever reason the category stuck. I blanked this one to see if that would remove the category stamp. Of course it did, but now the page doesn't have a category (which I've heard annoys you). I think I want you to delete Paladin/Caladbolg18 for me, if it's not too much trouble. Is it normal that moved/deleted pages keep categories like this, or is this something else?
- I've been wondering about those maintenance reports as well. I don't want you to go out of your way if the answer is complicated, but do they work at all? The uncategorized pages and deadend pages reports would be handy if they actually updated.
- Also, do you have a category for delete requests? I'm sorry if this isn't the place to ask for them.
- In any case, thanks for helping me out! --Pickles 17:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
P.S. Thanks for getting back to me so quickly on my last message! I'm glad I've got your seal of approval. P.P.S. Is it just me or is the site loading faster today?
Found an ad
Netconnekt's user page is an ad. I saw you deleted the dubaitours thing, so I figure this sort of account is not allowed. --Pickles 01:09, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Reviewruk's user page is also an ad (and a fishy service if you ask me). I wonder if we're on some list of good wikis to advertise on. Interestingly enough, another company has made an account but not posted a link (yet). Lwayservice is a net dev company (akin to Netconnekt), but they didn't create any pages. --Pickles 03:41, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
Woodframe's new page User talk:Woodframe is an ad. First paragraph is so deeply introspective that I almost didn't realise it was an ad. --Pickles 18:01, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
Ingdarenth's user page is also an ad. Leonel Sohns 09:06, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
Fivesdigital's user page is also an ad. Leonel Sohns 11:33, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
Harrygood9898's user page is also an ad. Leonel Sohns 14:14, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Red Options
I'm not sure if it's been brought up before. I've been lurking for a little as an anon and wanted to start contributing to stories: some of which have red options nobody has fleshed out (in some cases for well over a year as far as I can tell). Do red options that haven't been written belong to the person, or are they free game to make into a page?
Fredhot16
Yo. I'm thinking of coming back to this website but not fully until I have something to write about. Just curious: what happened to the edit button on the Main Page?
-October, 15, 2021, 02:09.
Thanks for the deletes
Hi Platypus. Thanks for deleting the pages I blanked. I was about to ask if you would do that. :) (I assume you looked and saw I was the only contributor.) DirtyOldMan 20:43, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Having a problem creating an account
Hello. Obviously, I have an account on Create Your Own Story, but I want to create an account on the main editthis.info page. I keep trying, but the same thing happens every time. I put in the username and the password. I made sure that the passwords were the same. I did the captcha. But every time I go to create the account, I get an error message: "Could not open socket in ./common/recaptcha/recaptchalib.php". I don't know who else to tell about this, so here I am. If you don't know anything about this, then could you please tell someone else who does. Thank you.
- TheFreddyFazbear54 13:57, 30th July 2022 (UTC)
Final touches to the Tutorial
Hello. I was poking around the wiki and noticed that the Tutorial needed a bit of a clean-up, so I've tried my best. Unfortunately, the page creation page is protected and there's something I think would be a very helpful addition. The addition and the edits I made are on the Tutorial Discussion, but feel free to change anything that you want. I figured you were the admin and might be able to edit the protected page. Thanks.
- TheFreddyFazbear54 22:05, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- TheGreenRaider 13:47, 26, Dec 2022(UTC)
Adopting other Interactives from other sites
Hi. I been looking at the number of stories, both kid-friendly and XXX-rated and I been thinking of allowing other content from other sites, both dead or infinantus-haitus and allowing both the original creators and contributors from those sites to post here. I know of a couple of good adult-heavy interactives from that bully site Writing.com that would struggle but accept the transfer. Personally, this was my second-best interactive site before the wacko admin of Writing.com committed a free-user genocide and banned everyone else from entering the site, to mine crypto, I guess?
- TheGreenRaider 14:27, 26, Dec 2022(UTC)
Is this website dead?
Is there any consistent updates of storys and active members?
The link I changed didn't match up with the continuation of the the story path
That's after he just agreed to only be with the daughter but the mom then rejected him in the same path so the two paths conflict?
Is contradicts this path
Could you rename some pages
Hey, I was wondering if you could rename a few pages? Specifically I was wondering if you could rename these pages:Josh._An_18-year_old,_brown-haired_football_player, Miranda._A_17-year-old_brown-haired_girl, and Chelsea._The_36_yo,_blonde-haired_volleyball-playing_mother_of_the_3_kids_above.
Specifically I'd like them to be renamed by increasing the ages of Miranda and Josh by a year and change blonde-haired to brunette.
