Talk:Story : Supper in the West Room

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Contents 1 Grogs and NPCs 2 What the PCs know 3 Semi Random Latin Notes 4 Splitting Up

Grogs and NPCs

There are some grogs and NPCs in this scene, and I thought I would just clear this up now before anyone gets confused. The first story was Magi-character story, and there was little danger of the grogs/NPCs doing anything noteworthy, so I was content to let them be written by the player's they were accompanying. This is also a Magi-centred story, assuming that the magi don't start throwing any more balls of abysmal public relations around.

The threads subsequent to this story will require grogs and NPCs to be played by people who do not have a magi character in that thread. I am happy, for the time being, for animal companions to be played by the magus/maga they accompany (this may change if they become familiars; I haven't decided yet.)

If one player introduces an NPC/grog to interact with (e.g. Mnemosyne and Geraldous in the first story,) there is nothing to stop you from asking to play that character at any point, providing you can post in a manner consistent with their antics up to that point.

It may take a story or two before we fine-tune our methods of assigning supporting characters, but as long as you all remember that supporting characters aren't really owned by any one player, and that it will sometimes be necessary to have a character played in place of someone who usually has in the past, then hopefully we won't have any significant problems.

I would like to hear about any preferences you have regarding grog assignment, as I imagine that from the range of options in the core rulebook, etcetera, we are probably used to completely different styles of troupe-play.

--219.174.96.24 11:04, 21 March 2006 (PST)

What the PCs know

I'm having a difficult time finding anything to add to this bit of the story, as I don't know what my character might know of the area. She has some faerie lore, but since I don't know what you have planned, I don't want to start making stuff up for her to talk about and have it be wrong. If you could give me a quick list of any pertinent information she'd have to input, I'd be glad to contribute to this story. --Eirlys 10:38, 21 March 2006 (PST)

I'm aware of the problem, and dealing with it, though it won't be finished til tomorrow. The unhappy combination of a massive surge in workload at the very end of the academic year, combined with a problem that only I can resolve... I have three hooks planned for the threads, but need to do a little more work before I can post...

Apologies, --219.174.96.24 11:04, 21 March 2006 (PST)

Semi Random Latin Notes

Salve is singular, if one is addressing multiple persons, Salvete is correct. Likewise, the singular nominative of Sodales is Sodalis, not Sodale. So, "Salve Sodalis!" or "Salvete Sodales!" I corrected it on the first page. --JBforMarcus 05:36, 16 March 2006 (PST)

Hmm, I thought singular was "sodalus"? --Eirlys 13:41, 16 March 2006 (PST)

Nope. "Sodalis, -is" making it a 3rd declension noun. I looked it up. Twice:-) --JBforMarcus 08:28, 17 March 2006 (PST)

Can you give some contextual examples? Thanks. --Rencheple 11:37, 20 March 2006 (PST)

sodalis (m.), comrade

Case	Ending	Declined Form	English
Singular
Nominative	–is	sodalis	(a, the) comrade
Vocative	–is	Sodalis!	(The) Comrade!
Genitive	–is	sodalis	of (a, the) comrade
Dative	–ī	sodalī	to, for (a, the) comrade
Accusative	–em (ref 1)	sodalem	(a, the) comrade
Ablative	–e (ref 2)	sodale	by, with, from (a, the) comrade
Plural
Nominative	–ēs	sodalēs	(the) comrades
Vocative	–ēs	Sodalēs!	(The) Comrades!
Genitive	–ium	sodalium	of (the) comrades
Dative	–ibus	sodalibus	to, for (the) comrades
Accusative	–ēs (ref 3)	sodalēs	(the) comrades
Ablative	–ibus	sodalibus	by, with, from (the) comrades

The following alternate endings are also possible:

1. Accusative singular, –im, declined sodalim
2. Ablative singular, –ī, declined sodalī
3. Accusative plural, –īs, declined sodalīs

--OldNick\\^Talk 11:54, 20 March 2006 (PST) Cribbed and alterered to Sodalis from Wikipedia Latin Declension

--Nominative case is for subjects, genitive is possessive, accussative is direct objects, dative is indirect objects, vocative is direct address and ablative is sometimes called adverbial. (All of the above more or less. So - concrete examples.

• Maga sodalem amat. (The/a) (female) magician likes/loves (the/a) comrade. - Sodalis in the accusative singular.
• Sodalis magam amat. The comrade loves the (female) magician. - Sodalis in the nomnitive singular. (Could be genitive but the sentence would make no sense.)
• Maga magam sodalis amat. The (f.) magician loves the (f.) magician of the comrade (or the comrade's magician). - Sodalis in the genitive singular.
• Maga summam sodali donat. The (f.) magician gives (a/the) summa to the comrade. - Sodalis in the singular dative.
• O sodalis, magam amo. O comrade, I love the (f.) magician. - Sodalis in the vocative.
• De sodale cogitamus. We are thinking about the comrade. - Sodalise in the ablative with the preposition "de".

--JBforMarcus 08:15, 21 March 2006 (PST)

Splitting Up

I am perfectly happy for players to split up into seperate threads. I would prefer, at this stage, that there be no more than three seperate threads.

James, can we start up a thread for Warren? Others can join in as their character's actions permit. --Rencheple 11:35, 20 March 2006 (PST)

I would like players to request grogs that they wish to accompany their magi characters, and then I will assign those to players who aren't in your thread.

Regarding sites - groups can head to specific parts of larger geographical features, such as ring forts, 'the eastern side', the crest, valleys, etc. It is up to you where you want your covenant, though the features of a wide-range of locations have already been determined by Samuel, Tim, and I.

Have fun, --James\\^Talk 03:53, 19 March 2006 (PST)

Mnemosyne would like to be accompanied by Geraldous. Otherwise, I presume the grogs we have are those we brought with us? These are...?--Perikles 04:12, 19 March 2006 (PST)

I would suspect that most of us would like our usual grogs to acccompany us, which in Marcus' case would be Diarmait--JBforMarcus 10:27, 20 March 2006 (PST)

While Llewys is an NPC, Ambrosius is without a shield grog and would be happy to have one assigned to him. - --Rencheple 11:34, 20 March 2006 (PST)