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Umm, I have a vague memory of some results of the spell Longinus cast being up before while checking in during my travels. Have we established that the 'ward' didn't stop any magic, nor anyone with MR? ----
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Just to refine my feel for ArsMagica, would someone explain to me what make a lvl 15 spell "apprentice level"?  --Samuel
Just to refine my feel for ArsMagica, would someone explain to me what make a lvl 15 spell "apprentice level"?  --Samuel
: IMO, nothing much - especially a spontanious spell. Given that an apprentice is casting a formulaic spell which they know, they should be able to manage anything 10 or lower with loss of fatigue. I suppose, if you take into account, a postive stamina, hand waving and yelling and an aura of at least 2, then the same could be said for a level 15 spell. However, managing the same spell spontaniously would be beyond most apprentices I would say, assuming they don't have strong scores in those Arts. Of course, it doesn't really matter if the spell was sponted or done formulaicly for the effect. Thus, I presume the GM is making a comment that the spell is too strong to be dispelled by such a spell cast by a hypothetical apprentice. If Eirlys were able to cast this spell formulaicly, then it would be of a much higher level and might have a better chance of knocking down the ward. --[[User:Perikles|Perikles]] 22:41, 3 May 2006 (PDT)
: IMO, nothing much - especially a spontanious spell. Given that an apprentice is casting a formulaic spell which they know, they should be able to manage anything 10 or lower with loss of fatigue. I suppose, if you take into account, a postive stamina, hand waving and yelling and an aura of at least 2, then the same could be said for a level 15 spell. However, managing the same spell spontaniously would be beyond most apprentices I would say, assuming they don't have strong scores in those Arts. Of course, it doesn't really matter if the spell was sponted or done formulaicly for the effect. Thus, I presume the GM is making a comment that the spell is too strong to be dispelled by such a spell cast by a hypothetical apprentice. If Eirlys were able to cast this spell formulaicly, then it would be of a much higher level and might have a better chance of knocking down the ward. --[[User:Perikles|Perikles]] 22:41, 3 May 2006 (PDT)
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I'm confused as to the results of the spell being cast.  "Unravelling the Fabric of Terram" despite being a straight-up Perdo Vim with no Terram requisite, will only attempt to dispel a Terram spell.  If there's no Terram spell to affect, it will not do anything.  Are you saying it doesn't interact with the circular ward, but does bump up against another Terram spell in the area?  Also, the Perdo spell dispels an effect of the spell level, plus ten, *plus a stress die roll*.  It's significantly more buff than a Wind of Mundane Silence (whose level must double the level of an effect in order to dispel it) because 1- it only affects one spell (not everything in the area) and 2- you have to specify the form it'll affect, so if you're trying to dispel an unknown spell, you either have to preface it with a good Intellego Vim, or cast it ten times, once for each Form :)  --[[User:Eirlys|Eirlys]] 09:41, 3 May 2006 (PDT)
I'm confused as to the results of the spell being cast.  "Unravelling the Fabric of Terram" despite being a straight-up Perdo Vim with no Terram requisite, will only attempt to dispel a Terram spell.  If there's no Terram spell to affect, it will not do anything.  Are you saying it doesn't interact with the circular ward, but does bump up against another Terram spell in the area?  Also, the Perdo spell dispels an effect of the spell level, plus ten, *plus a stress die roll*.  It's significantly more buff than a Wind of Mundane Silence (whose level must double the level of an effect in order to dispel it) because 1- it only affects one spell (not everything in the area) and 2- you have to specify the form it'll affect, so if you're trying to dispel an unknown spell, you either have to preface it with a good Intellego Vim, or cast it ten times, once for each Form :)  --[[User:Eirlys|Eirlys]] 09:41, 3 May 2006 (PDT)
: I suspect the GM may have just been being kind and allowed the spell to have an unforseen effect when encountering the ward to give you a hint - as opposed to just stating that "Nothing happens".--[[User:Perikles|Perikles]] 22:41, 3 May 2006 (PDT)
: I suspect the GM may have just been being kind and allowed the spell to have an unforseen effect when encountering the ward to give you a hint - as opposed to just stating that "Nothing happens".--[[User:Perikles|Perikles]] 22:41, 3 May 2006 (PDT)
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:: ALternatively, she may have interferred with something Longinus was doing quietly... ;-)
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Umm, I have a vague memory of some results of the spell Longinus cast being up before while checking in during my travels. Have we established that the 'ward' didn't stop any magic, nor anyone with MR? ----


Just to refine my feel for ArsMagica, would someone explain to me what make a lvl 15 spell "apprentice level"? --Samuel

IMO, nothing much - especially a spontanious spell. Given that an apprentice is casting a formulaic spell which they know, they should be able to manage anything 10 or lower with loss of fatigue. I suppose, if you take into account, a postive stamina, hand waving and yelling and an aura of at least 2, then the same could be said for a level 15 spell. However, managing the same spell spontaniously would be beyond most apprentices I would say, assuming they don't have strong scores in those Arts. Of course, it doesn't really matter if the spell was sponted or done formulaicly for the effect. Thus, I presume the GM is making a comment that the spell is too strong to be dispelled by such a spell cast by a hypothetical apprentice. If Eirlys were able to cast this spell formulaicly, then it would be of a much higher level and might have a better chance of knocking down the ward. --Perikles 22:41, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

I'm confused as to the results of the spell being cast. "Unravelling the Fabric of Terram" despite being a straight-up Perdo Vim with no Terram requisite, will only attempt to dispel a Terram spell. If there's no Terram spell to affect, it will not do anything. Are you saying it doesn't interact with the circular ward, but does bump up against another Terram spell in the area? Also, the Perdo spell dispels an effect of the spell level, plus ten, *plus a stress die roll*. It's significantly more buff than a Wind of Mundane Silence (whose level must double the level of an effect in order to dispel it) because 1- it only affects one spell (not everything in the area) and 2- you have to specify the form it'll affect, so if you're trying to dispel an unknown spell, you either have to preface it with a good Intellego Vim, or cast it ten times, once for each Form :) --Eirlys 09:41, 3 May 2006 (PDT)

I suspect the GM may have just been being kind and allowed the spell to have an unforseen effect when encountering the ward to give you a hint - as opposed to just stating that "Nothing happens".--Perikles 22:41, 3 May 2006 (PDT)
ALternatively, she may have interferred with something Longinus was doing quietly... ;-)

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