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| - | * Write down what you would like to see the 300BPs spent on.
| + | ==Covenant Creation: Build points== |
| - | * Inform the other players what you will be spending your 60 points on (those with points).
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| | + | The first five players to submit completed characters were given control over how 60 build points were spent on Covenant creation. Though the game begins with the players founding a Spring Covenant, they had 300 build points to allocate on starting resources. |
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| - | == Current Vis Sources == | + | {| border=1 width=85%| |
| - | Techniques
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| - | * Creo 3 pawns/year (Longinus/Corbon)
| + | ===<center>Build point List</center>=== |
| - | * Muto 2 pawns/year (Eirlys/Sally)
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| - | * Rego 7 pawns/year (Longinus/Corbon)
| + | | width = 50% | <center>'''Vis Sources'''</center> |
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| - | Forms
| + | * Vis source, 3 Creo/year (15 BP) |
| - | * Corpus 6 pawns/year (Marcus/Jeff) | + | * Vis source, 2 Muto/year (10 BP) |
| - | * Vim 2 pawns/year (Longinus/Corbon) | + | * Vis source, 7 Rego/year (35 BP) |
| | + | * Vis source, 6 Corpus/year (30 BP) |
| | + | * Vis source, 2 Vim/year (10 BP) |
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| | + | | <center>'''Technique Summae'''</center> |
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| + | * Creo Summa, Q16 L:13 (29 BP) |
| - | ==Eirlys/Sally==
| + | * Muto Summa, Q:10, L:20 (BP 20+10)<br>"Mundum regere debemus nos regere" |
| | + | * Rego Summa, L:18 Q:12 (30 BP) |
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| - | ===Current 300 point wish list===
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| - | Corpus vis source, 4 pawns per year (20BP) (Bought by Marcus)<br>
| + | | <center>'''Form Summae'''</center> |
| - | Ignem vis source, 2 pawns per year (10BP)<br>
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| - | Creo vis source, 4 pawns per year (20BP)<br>
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| - | Muto vis source, 4 pawns per year (20 BP) (Two bought by Eirlys)<br>
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| - | Corpus summa, level 14, quality 10 (24BP) (Bought by Eirlys)<br>
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| - | Ignem summa, level 10, quality 10 (20BP) (Bought by Eirlys)<br>
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| - | Animal summa, level 16, quality 12 (28BP)<br>
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| - | Mentem summa, level 16, quality 15 (31BP)<br>
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| - | Terram summa, level 16, quality 15 (31BP)<br>
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| - | Herbam summa, level 10, quality 10 (BP: 20)<br>
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| - | Imaginem summa, level 10, quality 10 (BP: 20)<br>
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| - | Parma Magica summa, level 5, quality 10 (35BP)<br>
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| - | Tractatus: Muto, quality 10 (BP: 10)<br>
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| - | Lab Text: Gift of Bear's Fortitude, MuCo25 (BP:5)<br>
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| - | Lab Text: Shape of the Woodland Prowler, MuCo25, An req (5BP)<br>
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| - | Scribe/Bookbinding specialists (10BP) (Bought by Eirlys)<br>
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| - | ===60 points spent===
| + | * Animal Summa, L:15, Q:14 (29 BP) |
| - | Corpus summa, level 14, quality 10 (BP: 24)<br>
| + | * Terram Summa, Q:10, L:15 (BP 20+5) |
| - | Ignem summa, level 10, quality 10 (BP: 20)<br>
| + | * Vim Summa, Q:16 L:15 (31 BP) |
| - | Specialist: [[Bartleby Character Sheet|Bartleby the Scrivener]] (scribe 6) (6BP)<br>
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| - | Vis source: Muto, 2 pawns per year (BP: 10)<br>
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| - | ===Other Notes===
| + | | <center>'''Miscellaneous'''</center> |
| - | While not terribly interested in them herself, Eirlys thinks it's important to have good summae in Terram, Vim, and Mentem. She's not that worried about acquiring a Vim summa immediately, though, as high level Vim summae shouldn't be too hard to find, and trading favors to get one copied shouldn't be that difficult. Her priority will be scouting out vis sources, though; as important as good summae are, they can be bought with vis.
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| | + | * Specialist: [[Bartleby Character Sheet|(Scribe 6)]] (6 BP) |
| | + | * ''Unknown Expenditure'' (20 BP) |
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| - | ==Ambrosius/Tim==
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| - | ===Current 300 point wish list===
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| - | '''Summae'''
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| - | * L7 Q10 Vim Summa [17]
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| - | '''I'd point out that Mnemosyne has already bought a L15 Q16 Vim Summa, which would ''seem'' to make this redundant'''--[[User:Perikles|Perikles]] 11:17, 9 February 2006 (PST)
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| - | * L7 Q15 Magic Theory Summa [36]
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| | + | ===<center>Purchases by Player</center>=== |
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| | + | | width = 50% | <center>'''Sally'''</center> |
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| - | '''A L7 Ability Summa can only be bought with a max Quality of 14 [11+3x(8-7)], so it would at least only cost 35 BPs. Alternatively, a L6 Q17 summa would cost 35 BPs as well. Ref ''AM5, p71'' '''--[[User:Perikles|Perikles]] 11:17, 9 February 2006 (PST)
| + | * Vis source, 2 Muto/year (10 BP) |
| | + | * Animal Summa, L:15, Q:14 (29 BP) |
| | + | * Muto Summa, L:+10 (10 BP) |
| | + | * Terram Summa, L:+5 (5 BP) |
| | + | * Specialist: [[Bartleby Character Sheet|(Scribe 6)]] (6 BP) |
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| - | ''Good points, both. I'll readdress these from home this evening. Thanks. - Tim'' | + | | <center>'''Nick'''</center> |
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| - | '''Tractatus'''
| + | * Muto Summa, Q:10, L:10 (BP 20) |
| | + | * Terram Summa, Q:10, L:10 (BP 20) |
| | + | * Donated 20 BPs to James. |
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| - | None
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| | + | | <center>'''Jeff'''</center> |
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| - | '''Vis Source'''
| + | * Vis source, 6 Corpus/year (30 BP) |
| | + | * Rego Summa, L:18 Q:12 (30 BP) |
| | + | : "Mundum regere debemus nos regere" |
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| - | * 7 pawn Vim vis per year [7]
| + | | <center>'''Corbon'''</center> |
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| - | '''Dunno if you are aware that Longinus has taken 2 pawns of Vim vis as well, which would bring this to a total of 9 and that he also taken 7 pawns of Rego vis which covers the ''Aegis''. On the other hand, I'm not sure there is such a thing as too much vis :P Just a FYI'''--[[User:Perikles|Perikles]] 11:17, 9 February 2006 (PST)
| + | * Vis source, 7 Rego/year (35 BP) |
| | + | * Vis source, 2 Vim/year (10 BP) |
| | + | * Vis source, 3 Creo/year (15 BP) |
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| - | ''I looked at this after the fact, based on the replies to my earlier post. I'll rework these (if necessary - I agree about "never too much vis") after I wrap my character up. Again, hopefully tonight. - Tim'' | + | |- |
| | + | | <center>'''Perikles'''</center> |
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| - | :: Does not a Vis source cost 5bp/pawn? --[[User:Samuel|Samuel]] 12:36, 9 February 2006 (PST) | + | * Vim Summa, Q:16 L:15 (31 BP) |
| | + | * Creo Summa, Q16 L:13 (29 BP) |
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| - | :: Aye.
| + | | <center>''James''</center> |
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| - | | + | * ''Unknown Expenditure'' (20 BP) |
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| - | ==Bedo/Nick==
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| - | ===Current 300 point wish list===
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| - | Vis sources are always good. Interests (in my selfish view)
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| - | Intellego, Creo, Vim, Corpus, Muto
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| - | Vis stocks to cover Aegis for first year.
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| - | Personal interst - laboratory. I like the idea of starting with a spacious laboratory (Minor structural virtue +2 safety, +1 Aesthetics 10bp) as it will allow improvement later.
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| - | Books, my character may well know about, but OOC I haven't yet number crunched with this character. I'd therefor go along with the herd in Sumnae / Tractatsu for Muto, Corpus, Herbam, Mentem, Terram or Vim in the middling levels / qualities.
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| - | A specialist Steward to run the place, and front it when Marcus is unavailable.
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| - | <small>It is okay... you will start with a moderately good steward anyway. - J</small>
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| - | ===Player 60 point build list===
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| - | ==Marcus/Jeff==
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| - | ===Current 300 point wish list===
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| - | Generally speaking, I find the problem is that folks with high scores in arts don't want or can't afford books to really boost their specialization. My instinct is that we should probably try to get the specialists to write introductory books on their speciality and buy either tractati or books that focus on areas where we are collectively weak. But that's just a feeling. Anyway ...
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| - | *Vis, vis, vis! How much Vis is too much is a very saga dependant question. Lots of Rego and Corpus since that's Marcus' speciality. Longinus already has 3 Creo, 7 Rego and 2 Vim. I'd add 3 Corpus to that. 15*5=75
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| - | *For some reason, actually based on events in another game, the idea of a good Parma book has an appeal. So perhaps a Q10 Parma tractatus for 10 points. (Although Eirlys wants a PM6 summa!)
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| - | *Possibly an architect/stonemason of skill 5, unless we can do this with our grog/covenfolk, 5 points
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| - | *Several MT tractati, 2 both of Q10 = 20 Or a good summa.
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| - | *A good Mentem summa would be nice
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| - | *A few Rego and/or Corpus tractati would be good.
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| - | * Unless they're nearly maxed out, avoid summa in areas where we have specialists - but as Longinus points out, 4-5 summa in the L15-18 Q16-13 range would be nice. His arts preference would be Rego, Corpus, Mentem and then he doesn't have a strong preference. A L18 Q13 Rego summa for 31 points gets Marcus kind of drooly. Anything below L15 or so, though, is probably a waste of points in his view.
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| - | ===Current 60 Points Spent===
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| - | Looking over the other folks purchases, I'm thinking:
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| - | *Rego Summa, Level 18, Quality 12 (30 BPS), "Mundum regere debimus nos regere"
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| - | *Six point Corpus Vis source (30 BPS)
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| - | ==Longinus/Corbon==
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| - | ===Current 300 point wish list===
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| - | *24 pawns vis/yr including Re/Vi and Cr/Co sources ''120bp, 2/magus + 6/AoTH + 2 into stores. More for stores would be nice but I'm not sure if even 24 pawns/year could be justified.''
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| - | *AotH text at at least Lvl 30 ''covered by Phaedrus''
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| - | *Seven League Stride and/or Leap of Homecoming texts ''Probably covered by Marcus. Incredibly useful once you can learn them, but virtually impossible for a non specialist to invent.''
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| - | *4 or 5 Summa in the range Lvl 15-18 Qual 16-13. ''124-155bp. Preferred Arts, in order and entirely selfishly, Corpus, Rego, Vim, Creo, Muto, Intellego, Mentem, Imagonem, Terram, Animal, Aurum, Aquam, Herbam, Ignem, Perdo.
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| - | *Specialists to cover any of the following that are not already covered by companions or grogs. A scribe/percamenarius ''8 magi can keep this fellow more than busy!'' An educated teacher of Latin and Artes Liberales ''(and with luck, or preferably, Magic Theory!) good for apprentices and under-qualified magi, may be better aquired after 10-15 years'' A competent Seneschal ''so that none of the magi have to spend time of actually running things as such, and also a first, acceptable, line of greeting/welcome for non gifted visitors''
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| - | *Conjure the Mystic Tower Text ''7bp, Longinus can _almost_ learn this and with 8 magi in one building (unless we spend boons) it could be a liiittle crowded, not to mention any trouble/difficulties if two magi find they don't get on so well''
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| - | *Maybe some magic items, though I don't do so well on specific ideas for these. Maybe Creo Animal or Creo Herbam for fertility type stuff? A cloak of invisibility? ''handy to send mundane/companion spies out with?''
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| - | ===Current 60 point purchases===
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| - | *Rego Vis source 7 pawns/yr ''35bp, enough for the AotH +1 spare''
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| - | *Vim Vis source 2 pawns/yr ''10bp, a little varied cover for the AotH''
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| - | *Aegis of the Hearth Text ''no longer needed thanks to Phaedrus''
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| - | *Combat leader specialist ''no longer need due to Geraldous the seargent''
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| - | *Creo Vis source 3 pawns/yr ''15bp, something to save up for those longevity potions''
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| - | '''Total, 60bp'''
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| - | ==Phaedrus/Samuel==
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| - | ===Current 300 point wish list===
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| - | '''Good books to copy and trade!'''
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| - | *Introductory books for Muto and Intelego lvl >=10
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| - | *Comprehensive book for Rego lvl20Q11
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| - | *One good book per character. (This is probably more than we can afford. 248pts)
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| - | *One Comprehensive book on a Form that we have Magae specialising in.
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| - | *At least one good introductory book on some form.
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| - | *One good mundane book if we can afford it.
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| - | '''No Art Summa below lvl10'''
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| - | ==Mnemosyne/Perikles==
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| - | ===Current 300 point wish list===
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| - | *'''Vim summa''', level 15, quality 16. Cost: 31 BPs. ''Bought by Mnemosyne''
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| - | *'''Corpus tractatus''' of quality 11. Cost: 11 BPs. ''Bought by Mnemosyne''
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| - | *'''Creo summa''', level 7, quality 11. Cost: 18 BPs. ''Bought by Mnemosyne''
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| - | *'''Rego or Vim vis source''' (Enough to pay for the Aegis - 9?). Cost 45? ''Bought by Longinus''
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| - | *'''Creo or Corpus vis source''' (Sooner or later we'll need healing). Cost 15? ''Bought by Longinus''
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| - | *'''Herbem summae''', level 15, quality 14. Cost 29 BPs. ''Bought by Eirlys''
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| - | *'''Imagonem summae''', level 16, quality 15. Cost 31 BPs. ''Bought by Eirlys''
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| - | *One or more Mentem tractatus, quality 9+. Cost 9+
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| - | *Intellego tractatus, level 11. Cost 11 BPs.
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| - | *Terram summae, level 10, quality 10. Cost 20 BPs.
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| - | *Total: 220+ points, 20 unspent.
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| - | ===Current 60 point purchases===
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| - | *Vim summa, level 15, quality 16. Cost: 31 BPs.
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| - | *Creo summa, level 13, quality 16. Cost: 29 BPs.
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| - | *Total: 60 points, 0 unspent.
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The first five players to submit completed characters were given control over how 60 build points were spent on Covenant creation. Though the game begins with the players founding a Spring Covenant, they had 300 build points to allocate on starting resources.
