Talk:20th Century Middle Eastern Conflicts

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Current revision as of 06:58, 1 July 2006

Afghanistan 1972 and 2002

Palestine 1968 and 1972

Egypt 1972, 1994 and 2010

Iraq 1988, 1991 and 2004

Iran 2006

Germany needs to have a role in these conflicts as it too needs oil, probably more than the Americans who have alaska.

(Moved here. Boot's original page)

I'm doing a version of this now, but I've included Israel, Transjordan, Saudi Arabia and Kurdistan, while removing Afghanistan, which belongs with the Central Asian republics.

Does Israel exist? Boots 10:33, 30 June 2006 (EDT)

Well, not for long, in my version, but I can't see why the British wouldn't create it, even if only to rebuff the Nazis. In a stalemate, there's no requirement to be gracious. :) On the other hand, it's a real fluke that the real Israel has survived as it has, and mostly due to American help, which the UISA page confirms they're not likely to give. I've made them just sympathetic enough, but not willing to stick their necks out; so Israel is destined to take a fall.

--Konstantin Sovietyevich 11:13, 30 June 2006 (EDT)

I'm not as happy with this lot as I was with the New Ukraine stuff or France. If people want to do an alternate version, with or without Israel, that'd be cool with me. I think there should definitely be an independent Kurdistan, though (because it's cool), unless keeping the Turks happy is very important in your timeline, and lots of Nazi influence - During WWII, Iraq, Iran, Syria and Turkey all had attempted Nazi coups, according to wiki. Still, I'll keep going, and see if it feels better.

--Konstantin Sovietyevich 19:48, 30 June 2006 (EDT)

I like it. You may delete all my crap, it was just suggestions.

How does it end? Is is a Soviet (Egypt/Palestine)/Nazi(Grwater Syria) draw, or do the western powers gain a foothold in the area (through Turkey) again?

How does it play out into the 21st century?

If I were you, I'd stick to the narrative you have. THe 'current' stuff can go on the 'Earth' Page, this is just a history of conflicts in the area. Boots 02:22, 1 July 2006 (EDT)

I was planning to more or less follow the historical left/right battles in Turkey, up until the final coup in 1980, at which point, a popular Communist rebellion, fired by the continuing and bloody conflict with Kurdistan ousts the military regime. In the absence of the the Truman doctrine in 1947, the US has no leverage over the situation, and the Grey Wolves and army are roundly defeated after three years of civil war. The Western powers support the nascent Islamist movements coming from Saudi Arabia, just as they do in the historical 1970's and 80's, and the Saudi alliance forms the basis of their regional power.

--Konstantin Sovietyevich 02:58, 1 July 2006 (EDT)