User talk:Henry/Archive1

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Hi! Seven of nine 11:49, 23 March 2007 (EST)

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Editing Feedback

It's my pleasure. I've got a lot of unanswered questions up there myself, and I figure as long as I'm waiting for replies, I may as well try to help some other folks out. :) —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 07:59, 25 March 2007 (EST)

Deleting a Wiki

Is it possible to delete a wiki?--Sportman2 15:09, 29 March 2007 (EST)

Not so far as I know. —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 18:55, 29 March 2007 (EST)
It is through the Editthis.wiki server, I believe. Henry 16:48, 2 April 2007 (EDT)
I don't know anything about that. Is that accessible to us users, or just to RobKohr? —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 09:45, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
Only Rob Kohr. Henry 12:18, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
Nope, there is no delete system. --RobKohr 07:21, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

Sysop

Hi Henry,

I have upgraded your account to a sysop.

Thanks, Rob

Congrats, Henry. I have also been upgraded to admin. Now let our reign of terror begin! ;) —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 07:57, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

IRC

Do you think we should create our own IRC channel? Henry 10:43, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

I don't really see the point. What would you hope to accomplish? I'm kind of losing my passion for supporting and developing this site when there's little or no support from RobKohr, either of this site or of the wiki system. If he's not interested, why should we be?
I wouldn't be able to monitor an IRC channel, either, but if you think you might like to, don't let me stop you. However, unless you were to somehow persuade RobKohr to monitor it himself, I suspect that you'd get a lot of questions that you could only answer by saying that RobKohr is the only one who can address this or that problem. —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 15:23, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Blocking IP edits

Good idea, blocking all IP edits for a while. Frankly, I'm inclined to forbid them permanently. Not only would it seriously cut down on the spam, but it would also require RobKohr to actually sign in to edit, thus proving conclusively whether he's actually been doing anything here or not. Which we know he hasn't. :p —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 08:48, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

OK, two things.
1. I also know that out of every ten edits a day 90% are spam, and the other one edit in maybe a Question, or Feedback or something and Rob wouldn't post to feedback.
2. IP edits are now blocked permantly. It doesn't really hurt the IP's because if you want to contribute just log in. Probably after a month or so, I'll activate the IP editing. Maybe protect all the pages that have been spammed so far? But there are so many.....Henry 11:06, 15 June 2007 (EDT)
I would recommend against protecting all those pages. Protection would mean registered users couldn't edit them, either, just admins. Besides, you'd wind up having to protect every page on the site. It looks like the spambots are randomly selecting pages, randomly selecting sections to edit/replace, and putting their spam in there.
Just blocking IP edits ought to be enough... for now... until the spambots are developed to the point that they create their own fake IDs and start spamming that way. Vexatious spammers! >:[ —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 08:42, 17 June 2007 (EDT)
What about the pages Hannibal is putting up? Some of them are spam but some of them are a joke and stupid. I don't mind them as much as the spam. Henry 11:15, 18 June 2007 (EDT)
I haven't seen any problem with Hannibal's pages, though I haven't been looking very closely. If there have been spam pages, I haven't seen them. As long as there is no Project Policy here, I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt. I have considered, though, suggesting to him that he might want to start up a separate wiki of his own rather than build a wikipage network here. Again, there's no policy here, and he's perfectly permitted to go on as he has been, but he's got lots of pages and would probably be better served by containing them within their own system. Anyway, haven't mentioned anything to him yet. Perhaps I'll drop him a line. —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 15:37, 18 June 2007 (EDT)

Wiki of the month

I'd love for you to hear the discussion me and User:Jack Phoenix have been having over on a different IRC channel. But to note, let's discuss the Wiki of the month. Should we just decide our own wiki of the month for June, (Interslang) because that's got the most votes? It's only got one vote. Or should we just let the no wiki of the month streak go on? Henry 23:09, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

I'm inclined to let it go on until the end of June. For July, if the only interest in voting is the one vote for Interslang, then let's make that the wiki of the month for July. After that, if there's no voting at all, I'd say we retire the feature as drawing no interest. —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 08:24, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

I've finally lost all my control...

I've finally lost all of my control with the way editthis.info is never upgraded nor anything. I posted a long list of things on RobKohr's talkpage. User talk:RobKohr. I'm almost fed up, I might leave, but I can't because that leaves only one admin. (you). Henry 17:34, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

Don't worry about me. With IP edits blocked to keep the spam off, there's not much an admin has to do, anyway. I've considered leaving for greener pastures, too, but then I remind myself of two things. One, truly greener pastures are likely to cost me some green of my own, and this site remains free. And two, no one is contributing to my wiki anyway, so there's no point in me carrying it off to someplace better.
Ultimately I think the problem with EditThis is that the business model doesn't require RobKohr to do any upkeep to maintain his income. As long as he has people visiting their wikis, he gets his money from Google. Since he's not getting his money directly from his customers, he has no need to make sure they stay happy. So the only thing that's going to get his attention is if there's a mass exodus of customers heading for the door. That will only happen if there's a better deal out there, and if there is, then you and I have little reason to be concerned over RobKohr's interest in this site. We can just join the exodus for the better deal, too.
So if you figure out where that better deal lies, let me know. In fact, I would recommend that if we find that better deal, before we leave we should post answers to all the Feedback, everything that RobKohr won't address, (a) that he is unresponsive and (b) where the better deal is available. I'm sure there are lots of people who would like to know. —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 10:12, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

Remove topwikis?

Are you sure the topwikis list wasn't automatically updated from within the system? It may not need to be manually maintained to keep it up to date. —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 17:41, 29 June 2007 (EDT)

Well Wikireligion had been 24 with the same number of page views the whole time, nothing new, or different but maybe it is manually updated. Um, thank you for reverting the undeleted spam. I was sleeply earlier and I just saw an internet link and asssumed it was spam :) I like your idea about the Feedback. Can you readd the Main Page thing and see if it is manually servered? Henry 18:19, 29 June 2007 (EDT)
I don't know how I'd check and see about the list of top wikis. The list was created with an html tag, <topwiki>, and I don't believe I have access to the code behind it. You may be right; it might just be a link to a manually updated list. If you've been monitoring stats, then you would be in a better position to make that call, 'cause I haven't been. :) —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 09:10, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

Huizenjacht

This article does not appear to be spam. Using the Dictionary.com translator, it looks like the article is about house-hunting. Just because it's in another language (Dutch, apparently) doesn't make it spam, and there are no policies here requiring that an article be in English. I think I'm going to undelete the former version, but I wanted to let you know first. —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 18:01, 29 June 2007 (EDT)

Hi, I'm the author of the article :-) Sorry to confuse you guys... we're looking for a house with a few people and I just wanted a temporarily Wiki article to share our information.
Leander
Well, I'm glad we got the confusion all cleared up. :) —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 09:13, 2 July 2007 (EDT)
This morning I wake up, to notice that the content of the wiki 'Huizenjacht' is deleted for the second time (by Henry), with as a comment that it is a personal blog, spam, ... We'll I can assure you that it's none of these. Let me describe to you what it is used for: (as you have noticed couple of weeks ago, it's in Dutch). The page was started with he aim of centralizing ideas and information concerning the search for a new house. Four of my friends and I were looking for a new place to rent. A week ago we found a nice house and came to an agreement with the owners to let us rent it. As you may notice, the contents of the page has grown rapidly since about a week ago. That's because there are a lot of things to arrange, before we can actually move to the new house. In stead of continuously mailing back and forth, we agreed that it would be far more practical if all information and ideas was stored at a central page, accessible to all, at any time. That's why we opt for a wiki page.
As you can see, the contents of the page can under no condition be seen as spam, nor can it be described as a blog, since we are not making a diary. Yes, there are time stamps, but that's just to keep the content clear. Putting time stamps allows each one of us to rapidly detect any possible updates made by the others.
As you may understand, by deleting the page, we have also lost all information, ideas, agreements, etc that we had already made. Therefore I'd appreciate it if you could restore the page. If, however, you refuse to do so, then please let us recover the contents in some way, so we can set up another page somewhere else. --Monoceros 04:41, 15 July 2007 (EDT)
I concur. There's nothing to suggest that this page is spam or vandalism, and even if this were a personal blog, there is no prohibition against such things here. This seems, in fact, a situation perfectly suited to the use of an individual wiki page, and it should be encouraged on EditThis, not forbidden. The page has been restored again. —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 09:15, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

Editthis.info (new)

There is a new editthis.info in development! Hopefully, it will be better. Try googling free wiki hosting services and see what you get. I didn't get much that's really as easy as editthis.info. Henry 23:27, 1 July 2007 (EDT)

Yeah, me either. Scribblewiki has some slight potential, but I'm viscerally opposed to anything that gets advertised through spam, and I'm not going to reward that sort of disruptive behavior. However, I'm also starting to think that the people I've invited to edit my private wiki would be better served by a WYSIWYG system. MediaWiki is a little arcane and a little intimidating to new users; hence no one but me has been editing my wiki.
How did you find that new EditThis development page, and how did you recognize it as such? I clicked over to it this morning, and it was just a strange list of settings or instructions or something, with errors at the bottom. —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 09:21, 2 July 2007 (EDT)
Here. Henry 11:30, 2 July 2007 (EDT)
Excellent. :) I'm going to link to the announcement in the Main Page notice, too. —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 14:25, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

rar

per your request on irc :-) --Henna 18:34, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

rar..Henry ;) ..--Comet 09:09, 11 July 2007 (EDT)

IRC

Can you link to an IRC channel? I don't know how. It would be helpful. Some person named Pinky started this IRC channel. Henry 13:12, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

If it can be done, I don't know how. If the IRC channel has an associated website, that would work nicely. Failing that, I can only surmise. Maybe there's a website or something that allows connection to IRC channels, and you can pass the channel name to that? I've no idea. —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 08:15, 16 July 2007 (EDT)
#editthis ..The IRC link as per request..its on the Freenode server BTW..--Cometstyles 09:44, 16 July 2007 (EDT)
and if there are users without an IRC Client..they can use Java's Freenode application edit this choosing a suitable nickname and logging in..I wanted to add this to the main page but its protected so I left you the link to add ..--Cometstyles 09:57, 16 July 2007 (EDT)
Excellent! Thanks for showing us how to do this, Cometstyles! I'll copy this to Henry so he can make the link. —Stormraven (talk · contribs) 09:40, 17 July 2007 (EDT)
  • Jack/Cometstyles said that I needed to talk to you about beta-testing or something. Well, tell me what I need to do. Pinky 16:36, 17 July 2007 (EDT)
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